VRAJA VILASA DASA
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These ANTI-RITVIK folks are just sooooo ENVIOUS of Srila Prabhupada’s unique position of CURRENT DIKSA GURU FOR ISKCON.
ALL he is trying to do is JUSTIFY some PHYSICAL body to be present in order that BG 4.34 to be correct according to HIS MANIPULATION. He writes: If there is not a self-realized soul always present, then what is the point of Krsna speaking the verse Bg. 4.34?
So -- lets address his MANIPULATION -- we will take the verse below AS IT IS:
TEXT 34
tad viddhi praṇipātena
paripraśnena sevayā
upadekṣyanti te jñānaṁ
jñāninas tattva-darśinaḥ
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These ANTI-RITVIK folks are just sooooo ENVIOUS of Srila Prabhupada’s unique position of CURRENT DIKSA GURU FOR ISKCON.
ALL he is trying to do is JUSTIFY some PHYSICAL body to be present in order that BG 4.34 to be correct according to HIS MANIPULATION. He writes: If there is not a self-realized soul always present, then what is the point of Krsna speaking the verse Bg. 4.34?
So -- lets address his MANIPULATION -- we will take the verse below AS IT IS:
TEXT 34
tad viddhi praṇipātena
paripraśnena sevayā
upadekṣyanti te jñānaṁ
jñāninas tattva-darśinaḥ
SYNONYMS
tat—that knowledge of different sacrifices; viddhi—try to understand; praṇipātena—by approaching a spiritual master; paripraśnena—by submissive inquiries; sevayā—by the rendering of service; upadekṣyanti—initiate; te—unto you; jñānam—knowledge; jñāninaḥ—the self-realized; tattva—truth; darśinaḥ—the seers.
tat—that knowledge of different sacrifices; viddhi—try to understand; praṇipātena—by approaching a spiritual master; paripraśnena—by submissive inquiries; sevayā—by the rendering of service; upadekṣyanti—initiate; te—unto you; jñānam—knowledge; jñāninaḥ—the self-realized; tattva—truth; darśinaḥ—the seers.
TRANSLATION
Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realized soul can impart knowledge unto you because he has seen the truth.
Does it state the approach of the spiritual master MUST be PHYSICAL BODY ? NO!
Now, since Srila Prabhupada’s physical presence is apparently not there does it mean that he is no longer approachable? NO!
Books : Sri Caitanya-caritamrta -- 1975 Edition : Cc. Adi-lila : Adi 1: The Spiritual Masters : Adi 1.35 : PURPORT : There is no difference between the spiritual master’s instructions and the spiritual master himself. In his absence, therefore, his words of direction should be the pride of the disciple.
Srila Prabhupada and HIS books there is NO DIFFERENCE . So ALL one has to do to seek ANSWERS is to READ his books: Srila Prabhupada: “Well, the questions… Answers are there in my books.”
Morning Walk
At Cheviot Hills Golf Course—May 13, 1973, Los Angeles
Paramahaṁsa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, when you are not present with us, how is it possible to receive instructions, for example, on questions that may arise?
Prabhupāda: Well, the questions… Answers are there in my books.
Paramahaṁsa: Other than that, for example, that we would ask you in…
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Paramahaṁsa: Do you direct us also through the heart? Besides the Paramātmā?
Prabhupāda: If your heart is pure. Everything depends on purity.
Note : Srila Prabhupada: ” In my books the philosophy of Krishna Consciousness is explained fully so if there is anything which you do not understand, then you simply have to read again and again. By reading daily the knowledge will be revealed to you and by this process your spiritual life will develop.”
Letter to: Bahurupa Bombay22 November, 1974
I am pleased to hear that you are chanting 16 rounds daily and reading my books regularly and following the four rules. In my books the philosophy of Krishna Consciousness is explained fully so if there is anything which you do not understand, then you simply have to read again and again. By reading daily the knowledge will be revealed to you and by this process your spiritual life will develop.
Note: “answered automatically”
Letters : 1972 Correspondence : February : Letter to: Upendra — Calcutta 19 February, 1972 : 72-02-19 :
(8) Although there is no GBC man for Far East for addressing your questions, still, as I am now old man and inclined for philosophy and translating, I am asking my disciples to kindly give me some relief from so much administrative work and asking questions. I have appointed this GBC for that purpose, and you are also senior member, and I have given you already everything, so you please consult among yourselves if you have questions. It is said sevon mukha hi jihbado, sayam eva sphurat adah, or “By engaging one’s tongue in chanting and taking prasada, simultaneously following the regulative principles, the Lord reveals Himself upon this.” In other words, if you are sincere to serve continuously and always chanting, all such questions become answered automatically. I never asked my Spiritual Master one question except one: “How shall I serve you?”
Note: ” then all of your questions will be answered automatically, because Krishna promises to His sincere devotee that He will give him the intelligence to understand Him.”
Letter to: Dasarha Bombay 4 March, 1972
Regarding your other question, you should not read such nonsense books, nor allow your mind to dwell on such subject matter. Instead utilize your time for advancing in Krishna consciousness by reading our books. We have got sufficient stock, and if you simply go on reading them, chanting regularly 16 rounds, engaging yourself 24 hours in Krishna’s business, then all of your questions will be answered automatically, because Krishna promises to His sincere devotee that He will give him the intelligence to understand Him.
Note: these ANTI-RITVIKS are a bunch of CROOKS who are after CAPTURING some innocent to be a SLAVE (SO CALLED DISCIPLE) FOR EXPLOITATION BY THE BOGUS ISKCON RUBBER-STAMPED ”
” DIKSA GURUS” MANUFACTURED BY BOGUS gbc. SO LONG AS THEIR PAYROLL FROM THE BOGUS GBC IS PROTECTED THEY CANVASS FOR THE CROOKS TO LURE THE INNOCENT DEVOTEE TO BE USED BY THE BOGUS GURUS.
Another point:
The heading of article by ANTI RITVIK manipulator VRAJA VILASA DASA is:
Submission, Service and Inquiry Require a Live Person
Now, lets consider all his points:
1) Submission -- We Prabhupadanugas submit by accepting the four Regulative Principles namely no meat, fish eggs, no intoxications including tea and coffee, no illicit sex, no gambling -- and chanting 16 rounds daily of Hare Krsna Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna Hare Hare/ Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.
2) Service: “The service of the spiritual master is essential. If there is no chance to serve the spiritual master directly, a devotee should serve him by remembering his instructions.” In his absence, therefore, his words of direction should be the pride of the disciple.
There is NO WHERE it says the spiritual master has to be PHYSICALLY PRESENT TO SERVE HIM. One can serve the spiritual master in his ABSENCE how? If there is no chance to serve the spiritual master directly, a devotee should serve him by remembering his instructions. THIS is WHY ” In his absence, therefore, his words of direction should be the pride of the disciple.” To us Prabhupadanugas we can SERVE Srila Prabhupada our BONAFIDE DIKSA GURU simply by REMEMBERING HIS INSTRUCTIONS.
Books : Sri Caitanya-caritamrta -- 1975 Edition : Cc. Adi-lila : Adi 1: The Spiritual Masters : Adi 1.35 : PURPORT :
The service of the spiritual master is essential. If there is no chance to serve the spiritual master directly, a devotee should serve him by remembering his instructions. There is no difference between the spiritual master’s instructions and the spiritual master himself. In his absence, therefore, his words of direction should be the pride of the disciple.
3) Inquiry: Whats the problem ? Devotees go to do VYASA PUJA every YEAR before the Deity of Srila Prabhupada RECITING TO SRILA PRABHUPADA. The same deity is there for us to inquire AND his BOOKS give the ANSWERS . The words nara-matir are appropriate this means HELLISH MENTALITY the ANTI RITVIK CROOKS CAN NOT ACCEPT SRILA PRABHUAPDA DEITY their mentality IS HELLISH. They make a SHOW BOTTLE recition of VYASA PUJA whereas WE PRABHUPADANUGAS WORSHIP THE DEITY.
The reason that this ANTI RITVIK BUNCH OF CROOKS can not grasp that Srila Prabhupada is LIVING IN SOUND -- HIS WORDS is because they consider their GOD is MONEY they SCREW OUT OF THE SYSTEM AND THIS IS WHY THEY WANT THE DEMONIAC ASSES VOTED BY BOGUS GBC WORSHIPED “AS GOOD AS GOD” .
Note: Srila Prabhupada is LIVING IN SOUND:
So although a physical body is not present, the vibration should be accepted as the presence of the spiritual master, vibration. What we have heard from the spiritual master, that is living.
Lectures : General Lectures : Lecture Excerpt — Los Angeles, January 13, 1969 : 690113LE.LA :
So we are not concerned about the physical body. Not concerned means… We are concerned, of course, because the spiritual master, those who are ācāryas, their body is not considered as materiel. Arcye śilā-dhīr guruṣu nara-matir. Just like the statue of Kṛṣṇa, to consider that “This is a stone…” Similarly, arcye śilā-dhīr guruṣu na… Guruṣu means those who are ācāryas, to accept their body as ordinary man’s body, this is denied in the śāstras. So although a physical body is not present, the vibration should be accepted as the presence of the spiritual master, vibration. What we have heard from the spiritual master, that is living.
Thus, we have PROVED it that
praṇipātena paripraśnena sevayā Submission, Service and Inquiry Require a
Live Person is INFACT present in ACCEPTING SRILA PRABHUPADA AS CURRENT DIKSA GURU.
The ENVIOUS ANTI- RITVIK manipulator VRAJA VILASA DASA has FAILED TO REPLACE SRILA PRABHUPADA AS CURRENT DIKSA GURU.
Hare Krsna! All Glories to OUR BONAFIDE ETERNAL DIKSA GURU SRILA PRABHUPADA!
Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realized soul can impart knowledge unto you because he has seen the truth.
Does it state the approach of the spiritual master MUST be PHYSICAL BODY ? NO!
Now, since Srila Prabhupada’s physical presence is apparently not there does it mean that he is no longer approachable? NO!
Books : Sri Caitanya-caritamrta -- 1975 Edition : Cc. Adi-lila : Adi 1: The Spiritual Masters : Adi 1.35 : PURPORT : There is no difference between the spiritual master’s instructions and the spiritual master himself. In his absence, therefore, his words of direction should be the pride of the disciple.
Srila Prabhupada and HIS books there is NO DIFFERENCE . So ALL one has to do to seek ANSWERS is to READ his books: Srila Prabhupada: “Well, the questions… Answers are there in my books.”
Morning Walk
At Cheviot Hills Golf Course—May 13, 1973, Los Angeles
Paramahaṁsa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, when you are not present with us, how is it possible to receive instructions, for example, on questions that may arise?
Prabhupāda: Well, the questions… Answers are there in my books.
Paramahaṁsa: Other than that, for example, that we would ask you in…
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Paramahaṁsa: Do you direct us also through the heart? Besides the Paramātmā?
Prabhupāda: If your heart is pure. Everything depends on purity.
Note : Srila Prabhupada: ” In my books the philosophy of Krishna Consciousness is explained fully so if there is anything which you do not understand, then you simply have to read again and again. By reading daily the knowledge will be revealed to you and by this process your spiritual life will develop.”
Letter to: Bahurupa Bombay22 November, 1974
I am pleased to hear that you are chanting 16 rounds daily and reading my books regularly and following the four rules. In my books the philosophy of Krishna Consciousness is explained fully so if there is anything which you do not understand, then you simply have to read again and again. By reading daily the knowledge will be revealed to you and by this process your spiritual life will develop.
Note: “answered automatically”
Letters : 1972 Correspondence : February : Letter to: Upendra — Calcutta 19 February, 1972 : 72-02-19 :
(8) Although there is no GBC man for Far East for addressing your questions, still, as I am now old man and inclined for philosophy and translating, I am asking my disciples to kindly give me some relief from so much administrative work and asking questions. I have appointed this GBC for that purpose, and you are also senior member, and I have given you already everything, so you please consult among yourselves if you have questions. It is said sevon mukha hi jihbado, sayam eva sphurat adah, or “By engaging one’s tongue in chanting and taking prasada, simultaneously following the regulative principles, the Lord reveals Himself upon this.” In other words, if you are sincere to serve continuously and always chanting, all such questions become answered automatically. I never asked my Spiritual Master one question except one: “How shall I serve you?”
Note: ” then all of your questions will be answered automatically, because Krishna promises to His sincere devotee that He will give him the intelligence to understand Him.”
Letter to: Dasarha Bombay 4 March, 1972
Regarding your other question, you should not read such nonsense books, nor allow your mind to dwell on such subject matter. Instead utilize your time for advancing in Krishna consciousness by reading our books. We have got sufficient stock, and if you simply go on reading them, chanting regularly 16 rounds, engaging yourself 24 hours in Krishna’s business, then all of your questions will be answered automatically, because Krishna promises to His sincere devotee that He will give him the intelligence to understand Him.
Note: these ANTI-RITVIKS are a bunch of CROOKS who are after CAPTURING some innocent to be a SLAVE (SO CALLED DISCIPLE) FOR EXPLOITATION BY THE BOGUS ISKCON RUBBER-STAMPED ”
” DIKSA GURUS” MANUFACTURED BY BOGUS gbc. SO LONG AS THEIR PAYROLL FROM THE BOGUS GBC IS PROTECTED THEY CANVASS FOR THE CROOKS TO LURE THE INNOCENT DEVOTEE TO BE USED BY THE BOGUS GURUS.
Another point:
The heading of article by ANTI RITVIK manipulator VRAJA VILASA DASA is:
Submission, Service and Inquiry Require a Live Person
Now, lets consider all his points:
1) Submission -- We Prabhupadanugas submit by accepting the four Regulative Principles namely no meat, fish eggs, no intoxications including tea and coffee, no illicit sex, no gambling -- and chanting 16 rounds daily of Hare Krsna Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna Hare Hare/ Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.
2) Service: “The service of the spiritual master is essential. If there is no chance to serve the spiritual master directly, a devotee should serve him by remembering his instructions.” In his absence, therefore, his words of direction should be the pride of the disciple.
There is NO WHERE it says the spiritual master has to be PHYSICALLY PRESENT TO SERVE HIM. One can serve the spiritual master in his ABSENCE how? If there is no chance to serve the spiritual master directly, a devotee should serve him by remembering his instructions. THIS is WHY ” In his absence, therefore, his words of direction should be the pride of the disciple.” To us Prabhupadanugas we can SERVE Srila Prabhupada our BONAFIDE DIKSA GURU simply by REMEMBERING HIS INSTRUCTIONS.
Books : Sri Caitanya-caritamrta -- 1975 Edition : Cc. Adi-lila : Adi 1: The Spiritual Masters : Adi 1.35 : PURPORT :
The service of the spiritual master is essential. If there is no chance to serve the spiritual master directly, a devotee should serve him by remembering his instructions. There is no difference between the spiritual master’s instructions and the spiritual master himself. In his absence, therefore, his words of direction should be the pride of the disciple.
3) Inquiry: Whats the problem ? Devotees go to do VYASA PUJA every YEAR before the Deity of Srila Prabhupada RECITING TO SRILA PRABHUPADA. The same deity is there for us to inquire AND his BOOKS give the ANSWERS . The words nara-matir are appropriate this means HELLISH MENTALITY the ANTI RITVIK CROOKS CAN NOT ACCEPT SRILA PRABHUAPDA DEITY their mentality IS HELLISH. They make a SHOW BOTTLE recition of VYASA PUJA whereas WE PRABHUPADANUGAS WORSHIP THE DEITY.
The reason that this ANTI RITVIK BUNCH OF CROOKS can not grasp that Srila Prabhupada is LIVING IN SOUND -- HIS WORDS is because they consider their GOD is MONEY they SCREW OUT OF THE SYSTEM AND THIS IS WHY THEY WANT THE DEMONIAC ASSES VOTED BY BOGUS GBC WORSHIPED “AS GOOD AS GOD” .
Note: Srila Prabhupada is LIVING IN SOUND:
So although a physical body is not present, the vibration should be accepted as the presence of the spiritual master, vibration. What we have heard from the spiritual master, that is living.
Lectures : General Lectures : Lecture Excerpt — Los Angeles, January 13, 1969 : 690113LE.LA :
So we are not concerned about the physical body. Not concerned means… We are concerned, of course, because the spiritual master, those who are ācāryas, their body is not considered as materiel. Arcye śilā-dhīr guruṣu nara-matir. Just like the statue of Kṛṣṇa, to consider that “This is a stone…” Similarly, arcye śilā-dhīr guruṣu na… Guruṣu means those who are ācāryas, to accept their body as ordinary man’s body, this is denied in the śāstras. So although a physical body is not present, the vibration should be accepted as the presence of the spiritual master, vibration. What we have heard from the spiritual master, that is living.
Thus, we have PROVED it that
praṇipātena paripraśnena sevayā Submission, Service and Inquiry Require a
Live Person is INFACT present in ACCEPTING SRILA PRABHUPADA AS CURRENT DIKSA GURU.
The ENVIOUS ANTI- RITVIK manipulator VRAJA VILASA DASA has FAILED TO REPLACE SRILA PRABHUPADA AS CURRENT DIKSA GURU.
Hare Krsna! All Glories to OUR BONAFIDE ETERNAL DIKSA GURU SRILA PRABHUPADA!
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