Showing posts with label bonafide spiritual master. Show all posts
Showing posts with label bonafide spiritual master. Show all posts

Tuesday, 23 July 2013

We Accept The Author as Our Bonafide Spiritual Master

By: 
 Hasti Gopala Dasa
This article is in response to the article – Hearing: The real tradition written by Vidura Das.
 
This is a most intricate and clear presentation dealing with the subject of "accepting a physically manifest guru". Very nicely done and very informative. 
 
Srila Prabhupada never recommended en masse that his disciples seek anyone else to link to and serve other than himself after his physical departure. He reinforces his position as the pure devotee to serve and take shelter of throughout his books. It is more than obvious that by being the commentator on the Chaitanya Charitamrita for example, the qualified person to seek out as a bona fide guru is himself. Otherwise how could he compose his commentaries? No one else in ISKCON has written independent commentaries on the Chaitanya Charitamrita, so who is the most qualified? Srila Prabhupada. And because he is the most qualified to imagine that not being physically present would have any effect on his books is illogical and ludicrous. 
 
Therefore by reading and following the teachings throughout his books is the same as having his association, you get his association through his books and you get Srila Prabhupada.  Once someone makes that preliminary contact with Srila Prabhupada and accepts him as their prime teacher progress begins, not that the acceptance is the end of the affair. One must constantly read Srila Prabhupada’s books and follow as sincerely as possible all of his instructions and that is where the fun begins because this Krishna consciousness is the most joyful of all states of being. Some of what Srila says about the necessity of accepting a bona fide spiritual master is presented below in the Adi-lila of the Chaitanya Charitamrita,  courtesy: causelessmercy
 
Adi 8.17  TRANSLATION
 
“By cultivating philosophical knowledge one can understand his spiritual position and thus be liberated, and by performing sacrifices and pious activities one can achieve sense gratification in a higher planetary system, but the devotional service of the Lord is so rare that even by executing hundreds and thousands of such sacrifices one cannot obtain it.”
 
PURPORT
 
Prahlada Maharaja instructs:
 
matir na krsne paratah svato va
mitho ’bhipadyeta grha-vratanam
 
(Bhag. 7.5.30)
 
naisam matis tavad urukramanghrim
sprsaty anarthapagamo yad-arthah
mahiyasam pada-rajo-’bhisekam
niskincananam na vrnita yavat
 
(Bhag. 7.5.32)
 
These slokas are to be discussed. Their purport is that one cannot obtain Krishna-bhakti, or the devotional service of the Lord, by official execution of the Vedic rituals.
 
** One has to approach a pure devotee. Narottama dasa Thakura sings, chadiya vaisnava-seva nistara payeche keba
 
“Who has been elevated without rendering service to a pure Vaishnava?” It is the statement of Prahlada Maharaja that unless one is able to accept the dust from the lotus feet of a pure Vaishnava there is no possibility of achieving the platform of devotional service. That is the secret. **
 
The above-mentioned tantra-vacana, quoted from the Bhakti-rasamrita-sindhu (1.1.36), is our perfect guidance in this connection.
 
                                                                               ********
 
Now in the final selected section of Adi-lila for this comment, Srila Prabhupada refers to a pure devotee being necessary to take shelter of and to serve. Is he not automatically including himself in that qualified position? Yes he is, again, because if he were not then he would not have written his commentaries on the Chaitanya Charitamrita. Association of Srila Prabhupada takes place while reading his original pre 1978 books and the reader becomes eligible to go back home, back to Godhead. Supreme association, supreme destination. Association means destination.
 
Adi-lila Chapter 8 Text 20 page 174
 
The two brothers Jagai and Madhai epitomize the sinful population of this Age of Kali. They were most disturbing elements in society because they were meat-eaters, drunkards, woman-hunters, rogues and thieves. Yet Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu delivered them, to say nothing of others who were sober, pious, devoted and conscientious. The Bhagavad-gita confirms that to say nothing of the brahminically qualified devotees and rajarsis (kim punar brahmanah punya bhakta rajarsayas tatha),
 
*** anyone who by the association of a pure devotee comes to Krishna consciousness becomes eligible to go back home, back to Godhead.***
 
In the Bhagavad-gita (9.32) the Lord thus declares:
 
mam hi partha vyapasritya
ye ’pi syuh papa-yonayah
striyo vaisyas tatha sudras
te ’pi yanti param gatim
 
“O son of Prtha, those who take shelter in Me, though they be of lower birth - women, vaishyas [merchants], as well as shudras [workers] - can approach the supreme destination.”
 
Finally for all those reading this web site and Srila Prabhupada’s books:
 
 Adi 8.15 TEXT 15
 
sri-krsna-caitanya-daya karaha vicara
vicara karite citte pabe camatkara
 
If you are indeed interested in logic and argument, kindly apply it to the mercy of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. If you do so, you will find it to be strikingly wonderful.
 

Saturday, 8 June 2013

The Bonafide Guru is connected to Karuna Sagara-Krs​na--SP

761130SB.VRN                   Lectures                 
 Similarly, the mercy cloud, karunya, karuna,
ghanaghanatvam... So just like ordinary cloud is made possible by
evaporating water from the sea, similarly, Krsna has the sea of mercy,
karunayamaya, karuna-sagara. Krsna's another name is Karuna-sagara. So
as the air evaporate or the heat evaporate from the sea, and the cloud
is formed in the sky, similarly, one who has connection or the power
to evaporate the mercy sea of Krsna, he can extinguish the samsara
davanala.(repeated birth and deathAnd that is guru. Guru is the cloud or he is the agent of
drying water from the ocean of mercy of Krsna and turn it into a mercy
cloud and pour water on the samsara davanala, and then it is
extinguished. Samsara davanala-lidha-loka-tranaya
karunya-ghanaghanatvam, praptasya kalyana.
   Therefore guru must be authorized person, not that
bhumi-phala-guru(?). No. "I am guru," no. You cannot become guru
unless you are agent to draw out the mercy water from the ocean of
mercy of Krsna. That is guru. And therefore a guru is not an ordinary
person. He is the representative, bona fide representative of Krsna.
Bhaktivinoda Thakura has sung, krsna se tomara, krsna dite para:
"Vaisnava Thakura, Krsna is your property. If you like, you can give."
Vedesu durlabham adurlabham atma-bhaktau. You cannot get Krsna by
studying Vedas. That is not possible. There is Krsna in the Vedas, but
you cannot pick up. It is not possible. But if you go to the Krsna's
favorite person... Kintu prabhor yah priya eva tasya. Krsna's very
dear servant, confidential servant, is guru. Nobody can become guru
unless he is in confidence of Krsna. Na ca tasmad manusyesu kascid me
priya-krttamah. These things are there. Not that by magic one can
become guru. No. .
 
[So if somebody is considering accepting someone as his guru, he should ask that person
can you, my dear Mr. guru, extinguish the blazing fire of my material existence by your being directly connected to Karuna Sagara, the unlimited Ocean of Mercy called God ?? And are you
in direct confidence with God, you can speak to Him as well?]
 
761130SB.VRN                   Lectures                 
cannot be changed. God's word cannot be changed. Then what will be the
difference between God and ourself? He is always perfect. He is always
perfect. What He said forty millions of years ago, what He said five
thousand years ago, that is also correct up to date. That is sastra.

Not that "So many years have passed and it has become old. Now let us

reform it and put it into new way." No. You can put the same thing in
a new way, but you cannot change the principle. Sadhu sastra
guru-vakya, tinete kariya aikya. Sastra is never changed. And the
sadhu... Sadhu means who follows the sastras. He is sadhu. He also
does not change. Sadhu, sastra. And guru? Guru means who follows the
sastra and sadhu. So there are three, the same. A guru will not
change, that "It was spoken five thousand years ago. That is not
applicable now. Now I am giving you something new, jugglery." He is
useless. Sadhu sastra guru-vakya tinete kariya aikya. Yah
sastra-vidhim utsrjya vartate kama karatah, na siddhim avapnoti. These
things are there.
 
[the above words  of Srila Prabhupada could be sent to Jayadvaita and Dravida asking them both
after reading the above, how they can justify changing the words of their spiritual master?] 
 
761228SB.VRN                   Lectures                  
   Sometimes bhakti is observed as similar to the activities of the
karmis, but there is difference. One is bhakti, one is going back to
home, back to Godhead; and the other is going forward to the hellish
condition of life by the same activities. This is the technique. How
it is possible? It is possible. By practical example, it is said in
the sastras... Just like if you take more quantity of milk
preparation, you get diarrhea. But the same milk preparation, yogurt,
is there. It will stop diarrhea. Both of them are milk preparation.
One has created the disease diarrhea, and another is stopping
diarrhea. So why? Cikirsitam. One is by medical process and the other
is without any medical process. The medical process is to satisfy
Krsna. Here the building is being constructed to satisfy Krsna. To
satisfy Krsna. And in other places the building is constructed to
satisfy senses. This is the difference, material and spiritual.
   Material means to satisfy one's senses. Nunam pramattah kurute
vikarma yad indriya-pritaya aprnoti. Karma means they are working very
hard like dogs and hogs, but the purpose is indriya-priti. Nunam
pramattah: they are mad. They should not... And why mad? Because the
karma means you are creating another body. And as soon as there is
another body, dehantara-praptir, so long you have got this material
body, you'll suffer. That is the law of nature. Karmanu bandhah. Yavan
priti mayi deve... tavat karmanu bandhanah. The karmanu-bandha will
continue. Therefore in the sastra it is recommended, yajnarthe karma
anyatra karma-bandhanah. Don't act anything except for the
satisfaction of Krsna. That is Krsna consciousness movement. If you do
anything for your sense gratification, that means you are being bound
up by the laws of karma. Laws of karma, it is very strict according to
the modes of activities. Purusah prakrti-stho hi bhunkte karma-jan
gunan.
 
[How do we know if we are satisfying Krsna by our acts? A conditioned soul does not know. That
is why we have to act under the constant direction of a bona fide spiritual master,
Srila Prabhupada. Otherwise--another birth, perhaps??]
 
750520SB.MEL                   Lectures                 
...The human form is the full manifestation of the soul.
Hari-sauri: They are covered in the spiritual world?
Madhudvisa: He is asking if they were actually covered in the
spiritual world as well.
Prabhupada: Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. Some
devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I
want that "As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna,"
he becomes flower, voluntarily. And he can change his..., from flower
to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If
some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as
calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father,
as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. Ye yatha mam prapadyante
tams tathaiva bhajamy aham. That is Krsna's all-powerfulness,
spiritual life.
 
[I liked these instructions so much I thought it would be nice to see a beautiful
arrangement of flowers made from our gardens, for our altar, just yesterday.] 
 
 

Thursday, 1 March 2012

Srila Prabhupada is not subject to material conditions

As Hari is not subject to the criticism of mundane rules and regulations, the spiritual master empowered by Him is also not subjected.
- Chaitanya Charitamrita Madhya, 10.136, text and purport
"Therefore the mercy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead and Ishvara Puri is not subjected to any Vedic rules and regulations"
- Chaitanya Charitamrita Madhya, 10.137