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Monday, 4 March 2013

Srila Prabhupada never appointed acharyas

By: 
Yashodanandana Dasa
Srila Prabhupada explained that his Guru Maharaja never appointed anybody as acharya. 
“…They wanted to create artificially somebody acharya,"…
 
Note:  1) The ISKCON GBC artificially created 11 acharyas in March of 1978.
            2)  If Srila Prabhupada wanted to appoint 11 acharyas [diksha-gurus] for ISKCON, why did he not directly say?
 
"He said so many things, and this point He missed? The real point?" 
 
Note: Similarly Srila Prabhupada said so many things in the last few months of 1977, and the real point He missed? 
 
“…and they insist upon it. They declared some unfit person to become…"
 
- Srila Prabhupada, Conversation, August 16, 1976, Bombay
 
Note:  And the GBC misheard, misunderstood, and misrepresented to the body of ISKCON devotees that 11 had been “appointed” as acharyas.  And they insisted upon it.  And they declared some unfit persons to become acharyas. 
 
Note:  If His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada did not appoint anyone as acharya [or diksha guru] for His mission, what makes the leading secretaries of His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada think that He would appoint one acharya or a group of acharyas for his mission, in direct contradiction of his criticism of this whole concept in August of 1976.  
 
- Srila Prabhupada, Conversation, August 16, 1976, Bombay, India  
 
Srila Prabhupada explains that there is no record that His Divine Grace Bhakti Siddhanta Sarasvati Thakura nominated “any acharya” after him. 
“… I have also read specifically your articles on the matter of acharyas, wherein on the 14th paragraph I see the acharya shall be entitled to nominate in writing his successive acharya. 
 
But we do not find any record where our Srila Prabhupada nominated any acharya after Him. Different persons have interpreted on this point, and everyone of our God brothers are acting as acharya, so this is a controversial point which I do not wish to enter into while we are proposing for co-operation…”  
 
- Srila Prabhupada, Letter to Swami Bhagavata Maharaja, August 21, 1969, Los Angeles 
 
Note:  Where is the actual verifiable record that Srila Prabhupada [HDG ACBSP] “nominated any acharya after Him”? 
 
Srila Prabhupada defines obedience. 
 
Srila Prabhupada:   "I may say many things to you, but when I say something directly to you, you do it. Your first duty is to do that, you cannot argue -'Sir, you said to me do like this before', no that is not your duty, what I say to you now you do it, that is obedience you cannot argue." 
 
-  Srila Prabhupada, Srimad Bhagavatam Lecture, April 14, 1975, Hyderabad 
 
Guru cannot be self-made.  Guru must be authorized. 
 
"Guru cannot be self-made. No. There is no such single instance throughout the whole Vedic literature. And nowadays, so many rascals, they are becoming guru without any authority. That is not guru. You must be authorised. Evam parampara-praptam imam ra... As soon as the parampara is....kalena yogo nasta parantapa, immediately finished. The spiritual potency finished. You can dress like a guru, you can talk big, big words, but it will never be effective." 
 
-  Srila Prabhupada, Lecture, February 27th 1977, Mayapur, India 
 
Guru must be authorized by the bona fide guru. 
 
"Self-made guru cannot be guru. He must be authorized by the bona fide guru. Then he's guru. This is the fact...Similarly; bona fide guru means he must be authorized by the superior guru." 
 
- Srila Prabhupada, Lecture, Nectar of Devotion, October 31, 1972 
 
Guru must be authorized by his predecessor spiritual master. 
 
"One should take initiation from a bona fide spiritual master coming in the disciplic succession, who is authorised by his predecessor spiritual master. This is called diksha-vidhana.
 
- Srimad Bhagavatam, 4.8.54, purport 
 
Guru must be ordered by his guru. 
 
Prabhupada: Try to understand. Don't go very speedily. A guru can become guru when he's ordered by his guru. That's all. Otherwise nobody. 
Result of Gaudiya Matha's attempt to become more than guru. 
 
"Why this Gaudiya Matha failed? Because they tried to become more than guru. [.] They declared some unfit person to become acharya. Then another man came, then another, acharya, another acharya." 
 
-  Srila Prabhupada, Conversation, August 16, 1976 
 
Position of the actual guru. 
 
"An actual guru always remains the servant of his own guru and the predecessor acharyas. Attempting to become a guru without one's own guru's order is a materialistic ambition. Accepting followers and circumventing one's own guru is offensive." 
 
- My Glorious Master, by Bhurijana Dasa, 22-11: A Lost Son Visits Home 
 
Srila Prabhupada explains how he became the leader of the Krishna Consciousness movement. 
 
Guru must be ordered by His guru. 
 
Indian man: When did you become spiritual the leader of Krishna Consciousness? 
 
Srila Prabhupada: What is that? 
 
Brahmananda: He is asking when did you become the spiritual leader of Krishna Consciousness? 
 
Srila Prabhupada: When my Guru Maharaja ordered me. This is the guru parampara
 
Indian man: Did it... 
 
Srila Prabhupada: Try to understand. Don't go very speedily. A guru can become guru when he is ordered by his guru. That's all. Otherwise nobody can become guru. "     
 
- Srila Prabhupada, Bhagavad-gita, Lecture, October 28, 1975 
 
Guru must be authorized. Guru cannot be self-made.
 
Position of gurus without authority. 
 
"Guru cannot be self-made. No. There is no such single instance throughout the whole Vedic literature. And nowadays, so many rascals, they are becoming guru without any authority. That is not guru. You must be authorised. Evam parampara-praptam imam ra... As soon as the parampara is...kalena yogo nasta parantapa, immediately finished. The spiritual potency finished. You can dress like a guru, you can talk big, big words, but it will never be effective." 
 
- Srila Prabhupada, Lecture, February 27, 1977, Mayapur, India
 
Guru must be authorized by the bona fide guru. 
 
"Self-made guru cannot be guru. He must be authorized by the bona fide guru. Then he's guru. This is the fact...Similarly; bona fide guru means he must be authorized by the superior guru." 
 
- Srila Prabhupada, Nectar of Devotion lecture, October 31, 1972
 
Guru must be authorized person. 
 
"Therefore guru must be authorized person, not that bhumi-phala-guru. No. I am guru," no. You cannot become guru unless you are agent to draw out the mercy water from the ocean of mercy of Krishna. That is guru. And therefore a guru is not an ordinary person. He is the representative, bona fide representative of Krishna." 
 
- Srila Prabhupada, Srimad Bhagavatam lecture, November 30, 1976
 
Guru cannot impart instructions without being authorized.
 
"The schoolmasters in the modern days are paid agents for giving some information, but the spiritual master is not a paid agent. Nor can he impart instruction without being authorized." 
 
- Srimad Bhagavatam: 2.9.43, purport 
 
"A Guru can be Guru when he is ordered by his Guru. That's all. Otherwise nobody can become Guru." 
 
- Srila Prabhupada, Bhagavad-gita lecture, 28th October 1975 
 
Srila Prabhupada predicts what happens when the acharya disappears? 
 
Unfortunately, when the acharya disappears, rogues and nondevotees take advantage and immediately begin to introduce unauthorized principles in the name of so-called svamis, yogis, philanthropists, welfare workers and so on.   
 
- Srimad Bhagavatam: 4.28.48 
 
Do not make addition, alteration.
Results of making additions and alterations. 
 
Many times they give me very great credit that I have done wonderful. Yes, I have done wonderful. But what is the reason? Because I am not a rascal. I speak what Krishna has spoken. That's all. Very easy. Everyone can do that. Not only I. Any of you, you can do this. Simply speak what Krishna has said. That's all. Don't make addition, alteration. Then you become rascal.  Immediately you become rascal. 
 
- Srila Prabhupada, Srimad-Bhagavatam lecture, 1.5.29 Vrindavana, August 10, 1974
  
Danger of concocting 
 
Prabhupada: Ara na koriha mane asa. Don't concoct. Don't you sing daily? Ara na koriha mane asa. Don't manufacture ideas. That is dangerous. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu teaches by His example. Guru more murkha dekhi' karila sasana. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu said to Prakashananda Sarasvati that "My spiritual master saw Me fool number one, so he has chastised Me, that 'Don't try to read Vedanta; chant Hare Krishna 
 
- Conversations, June 23, 1976, New Vrindavan 
 
Go to right person who has seen.  Do not make your own interpretation. 
 
Prabhupada: Therefore Krishna says, tad viddhi pranipatena pariprasnena sevaya: "One who knows, go and understand from them, from the guru." Don't make your interpretation, rascal. You shall remain always a rascal. Then what is the use of all these verses? If it is so easy to understand Krishna then why Krishna says, tad viddhi pranipatena pariprasnena sevaya: "Then you will understand. Go to the right person who has seen.”  
 
- Conversations, December 10, 1975, Vrindavana

Monday, 21 January 2013

ISKCON's Troubles Are Not The Troubles Of The Prabhupadanugas

It's very easy to run a society that has vast fortunes pilfered over the years from the founding acharya Srila Prabhupada and his disciples while driving them out with  sticks and threats. With a large cadre of bogus gurus established as Diksa gurus and the foundation of lies and deception, managing the perception of peace and co-operation is relatively easy. Look at communist China for example. They appear to be very together with their vast wealth and political power as well as a powerful military machine yet suffer hundreds of small rebellions a month and manage slave labor camps. No empire in Kali Yuga manages to stay in power for more than 2 to 3 hundred years save and except the Roman Empire. The present ISKCON will also fade or suddenly drop from sight.  With no wealth what to speak of, a scattered and destroyed population of devotees thanks to the criminal minds in ISKCON, have had their original books banned from the world and suffered from other sordid historical crimes by ISKCON. Of course they appear to be peaceful and well organized while we Prabhupadanugas struggle for some semblance of peace and co-operation. Just like the other day someone said that I was envious of a particular swami. I said, "You're Goddammed right I am!" If I had his bank account, time and staff I could feed 10,000 people a year prasadam here in Toronto as well as provide three Gita classes a week with books and paraphernalia for new Bhaktas at %75 of the cost. The only reason the Prabhupadanugas seem to be in dis-aray, which I do not agree with, is because we are free to speak, free to question, free to debate, free to freely critique and are free to associate with those we like to. ISKCON, members cannot do any of the above because they live in a closed society. ISKCON temples are not independent and cannot even on a personal level make any decision on anything unless they contact their GBC, lots of peace with that process. There are thousands of REAL ISKCON devotees everywhere. ISKCON does not decide who is who, who is right, who is wrong, who can be banned, who can be worshiped, who gets money or who gets anything, in their case Maya does. ISKCON's expert psyop all these years has been to convince everyone that "they" are authorities, ( they have no authority ) and that Srila Prabhupada is dead and gone, therefore no disciple of Srila Prabhupada's has any longer an on going relationship with him, that is the illusion. The rest bought into it and we did not because we are more intelligent than they are. Srila Prabhupada is the authority not the bogus ISKCON.

HH BhaktiVikas Swami admits here that ISKCON is not the peaceful society that they portend to be, “the Ritvikites' inability to work together, their splintering into multiple groups, demonstrates that they have no solution to ISKCON's troubles.”

It is again a designed general sweeping statement that the Prabhupadanugas do not have the ability to work together which is not true, most of us are, ISKCON does not approve of independence as Prabhupada did so we are labeled as "splinter groups", again a clever misleading use of words. Ask yourself why what we do as the most dedicated followers of Srila Prabhupada on the planet would have any interest in solutions for ISKCON's troubles? If ISKCON has troubles then why would we be interested in solving them, we apparently,according to him, we have enough troubles of our own. That it has been declared by this boob that we have "no solution" is an outright lie. Let him get off his duff, take his donated money and go to every ISKCON temple on the planet and invite every local Prabhupadanugas to that ISKCON temple and have a 7 days free and open bitching session. He can't because THEY HAVE NO SOLUTIONS! You know why? Because they have disconnected themselves for 37 years from the leadership of Srila Prabhupada, we have not. We may rock the boat but we are all on the same boat.

IF EVERYONE IS THINKING THE SAME THEN NO ONE IS THINKING  General George S. Patton Jr.


No one should ever again compare Prabhupadanugas with ISKCON, there is no comparison, that can be admitted, in our favour, it is simply a futile excersize designed by ISKCON and it's sympathizers to try and weaken the resolve of those who are the only ones really helping the world and who are still really in contact with Srila Prabhupada on a daily basis. Use of that energy can be better spent following Srila Prabhupada's teachings and instructions.
We have a new Gita Guide coming out, a new Bhakta Handbook and are preparing to have  a special series of Prabhupada lectures digitized. We have three people a month here at home, so we are doing and we are ISKCON.

If Someone Tells You Or Treats You Like You Are Not In ISKCON, Tell Them That Prabhupada Said That "ISKCON IS Where You Are Chanting Hare Krishna"

Mother Yamuna says " After settling in Oregon with my Godsister Dinatarine, Srila Prabhupada, while pronouncing us 'independent' to a concerned Godbrother, at the same time twice rebuked us when we approached him to leave. 'You westerners are so restless,' he admonished. 'Why can't you remain in the same place? Stay where you are.' We questioned, 'But Srila Prabhupada, they are saying that if we aren't in ISKCON, we lose your blessings and cannot make advancement.' Prabhupada replied, 'ISKCON is where you are chanting the holy name - that is ISKCON.' We rejoined: 'They are saying we don't have any association here and are therefore in maya.' He replied: 'Association can be two or two hundred. If you are two and compatible, you can become perfect in Krsna consciousness. If you are 200 and are not, then no one will make advancement.'
Srila Prabhupada is our leader, the holy name is our main weapon
and the original Bhagavad Gita As It Is, is our war plan. And for the support of Srila Prabhupada, with a firm reliance on the protection of Krsna, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honour.

The Oath of Honour for The First Hanuman Rangers.

Ys  Hasti Gopala Dasa