Satsvarupa dasa Goswami: “Prabhupada had picked out eleven devotees to initiate on his behalf

 Satsvarupa admits guru appointment hoax

Satsvarupa dasa Goswami: “Prabhupada had picked out eleven devotees to initiate on his behalf when he was too ill to initiate.

In 1978 in a GBC meeting, they (the GBC) decided that those people should become the first initiating gurus in ISKCON. 

So I became initiating guru and suddenly had to accept disciples in big numbers — all these devotees who hadn’t been initiated and were waiting to be initiated. And it was a very heady time. I wrote a poem about it which I published in Journal and Poems, feeling myself to be a small person, but aguru. I called it “A Castor-tree Guru,” based on an example Prabhupada gave that he said that when there are no trees, a castor tree (which is a small tree) will be considered a big tree. So my poem is called “A Castor Tree Guru:”
( December 3, 2011 Vyasa-Puja Address to Disciples)

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[PADA: Notice that now Satsvarupa is admitting there was no guru appointment by Srila Prabhupada, rather the GBC appointed the 11 gurus. This admission is a little late in coming, but at least some pieces of the truth is finally coming out, i.e. "the May 28th guru appointment" by Srila Prabhupada was, is, always will be a total hoax. There is ALSO no "order from Srila Prabhupada" for the GBC to appoint acharyas either, this is another hoax, maybe SDG will admit to that hoax later on, lets hope so for his sake. Anyway, this is a start, albeit a day late and a dollar short. ys pd]

 http://krishna1008.blogspot.in/2012/05/satsvarupa-admits-guru-appointment-hoax.html

Where is the Order?

Prabhupada: When I order, "You become guru," he becomes regular guru. That's all. He becomes disciple of my disciple. That's it. (Srila Prabhupada's May 28, 1977 ISKCON Governing Board Commission (GBC) meeting.)

Harinama dasa :[Here Srila Prabhupada clearly concludes his reply to Tamal and says that his disciples can become regular guru and accept their own disciples only when he orders them to. This clearly indicates that he did not yet give the specific order for his disciples to become regular (diksa) gurus and accept their own disciples in ISKCON in this meeting. He already repeatedly confirmed this fact with his prior repudiation (four times) in reply to Satsvarupa's original question on what the GBC were to do for 1st and 2nd initiations "when you no longer are with us" as already pointed out. So it is inconceivable that he changes his mind in replying to what is essentially the same question from Tamal vis-a vis, "Whose disciples are they?". Tamal's misunderstanding of this crucial meeting was later confirmed in the 1980 Topanga Canyon guru meeting detailed in subsection II.A. Unfortunately as secretary, his deviation was also written into the minutes of the May 28, 1977 meeting.
Furthermore, if someone tells you, "When I order, you jump off the cliff" would you jump? OF COURSE NOT! Clearly, Srila Prabhupada's use of the word "when" indicates that he did not yet give that order. A month later in his July 9, 1977 worldwide communique (given below) he gave his final orders on future initiations for Iskcon wherein he named 11 disciples to act as "ritvik representatives of the acarya" to initiate future disciples on his behalf "henceforward".]