Showing posts with label order. Show all posts
Showing posts with label order. Show all posts

Tuesday, 22 May 2012

Prabhupada: There is no question of why.It is ordered; it has to be done. That's all.

 Don’t Say Why To Srila Prabhupada?
By: 
 Damaghosa Dasa
Following is an excerpt from a conversation with Srila Prabhupada:
 
Devotee: ...then why is any one activity of Krishna consciousness better than another one? Why is any one way of serving Krishna better than another? For example, with chanting of the sixteen rounds. Suppose that you've gone 23 hours of the day serving Krishna in one way or another, and the last hour there is opportunity to finish your rounds and also opportunity to make a life member. So instead of chanting your sixteen rounds...
Prabhupada: But you cannot create your concoction! You have to abide
by the orders of Krishna.
Devotee: Then why...
Prabhupada: There is no question of why. It is the order of Krishna's representative. You have to abide by that, you cannot say, "Why?" Then you are not fully surrendered, as soon as you say, "Why?" Surrender means there is no [surrender] "Why?" It is ordered; it has to be done. That's all.
As soon as there is "Why?” there is no surrender. The basic principle is misguided. We have to follow. Just like we have got tilaka. If you say, "Why this tilaka?" There is no question of "Why?" Mahajano yena gatah sa pantha. We have been instructed by the acharyas; we have to follow that. That is surrender. You cannot say, "Why?" Is that clear? As soon as there is "Why?” there is no surrender.
- Excerpt from room conversation with Srila Prabhupada on Feb 17, 1971, Gorakhpur)
Comment:
When you consider all the following present day ISKCON’s mentalities and statements.
Why can Srila Prabhupada order in this ritvik way"---
Why he can do this or that because it is not traditional??
Why should we do things the same way Srila Prabhupada taught us?
Why can’t we just change things the way WE think they should be done?
Why can’t I change your books Srila Prabhupada?
Why can’t I sit on your Vyasasana??
Why should we still worship Srila Prabhupada when he is dead and gone?
It is no wonder that everything has fallen apart???

 Srila Prabhupada said once-- "I have given you Vaikuntha and you have turned it into Hell!!”
 
WHY WHY WHY--these are the questions of disciples - who are no longer disciples.

Thursday, 9 February 2012

The Ritvik order of Srila Prabhupada should be the active principle

‎"When disciples do not stick to the principle of accepting the order of their spiritual master, immediately there are two opinions. Any opinion different from the opinion of the spiritual master is useless. One cannot infiltrate materially concocted ideas into spiritual advancement. That is deviation." 
(Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Adi-lila 12.8-10, purport)


"The instructions received from the spiritual master must be followed immediately. One should not deviate from or surpass the instructions of the spiritual master." 
(Srimad-Bhagavatam 5.5.14, purport)


"The disciple must stick to whatever the spiritual master orders. Simply by following on that line, one sees the Supreme Personality of Godhead 
[…] Instead of being eager to see the Lord in some bush in Vrndavana while at the same time engaging in sense gratification, if one instead sticks to the principle of following the words of the spiritual master, he will see the Supreme Lord without difficulty." 
(Bhagavatam 4.28.51, purport)


 ‎"To honor the spiritual master means to carry out his instructions word for word."
(Srimad-Bhagavatam 3.24.12, purport)



 ‎"To practice bhakti-yoga, one must first accept a bona fide spiritual master." Srila Prabhupada (Srimad Bhagavatam 7.7.30-31)


‎"One's first duty is to accept a bona fide spiritual master." Srimad Bhagavatam 7.7.30-31)


TEXT 10
The order of the spiritual master is the active principle in spiritual life. Anyone who disobeys the order of the spiritual master immediately becomes useless.

Śrī Caitanya-caritāmṛta Ādi-līlā 12.12
PURPORT
Here is the opinion of Śrīla Kṛṣṇadāsa Kavirāja Gosvāmī. Persons who strictly follow the orders of the spiritual master are useful in executing the will of the Supreme, whereas persons who deviate from the strict order of the spiritual master are useless.