Hare Krsna To All
Obeisances
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
Below is part one of two files which are
summaries of
Vol # 8 Srimad Bhagavatam classes given by
His
Divine Grace A C Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila
Prabhupada
You will find a lot of nectar contained within
and some
of it is briefly given below:
1. Economic development is given by God to His
bhaktas, just like milk
automatically appears in a
young mother's breast. No separate endeavor required.
2. Your destiny cannot be changed one
inch-unless you take to KC
3. Grhastha/mahatma test is how much one id
detached from family business
and instead how much I want
to please Krsna.
4. There are mahatmas even amongst the birds
and beasts
5. So long you materially desire-no peace
6. Even in dreams at night we desire things-so
learn to desire
even while dreaming only for
Krsna
7. Unless you know your real identity how
can you work toward the goal of life?
8. Some people come from India to America
where the climate is not as nice/favorable as India's.
Why? Only
for sex pleasure or to improve ones sense gratification
9. Guru is not to be unlimitedly questioned.
First service and surrender, then questions will
be fruitful.
Hare Krsna
Damaghosa das
SB class Vol 8
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... Before the child is born, you don't find
in
the breast of the mother any drop of milk. See. In
a young girl, there
is no milk in the breast. But as soon as the child is
born,
immediately there is milk. Immediately,
spontaneously. This is God's
arrangement. Because the child requires food. Just see
how God's
arrangement is there. Still, we are trying for economic
development.
If a child is born and God's economic program is so nice,
nature's
economic program, that immediately the mother is ready
with the
milk... This is economic development. So the same milk is
supplied by
the cow. She's actually mother, and this rascal
civilization is
killing mother. Mother-killing civilization. Just see.
You suck the
breast of your mother from the beginning of your life,
and when she's
old if you think, "Mother is useless burden. Cut its
throat," is that
civilization?
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If you have
got enough milk production, you can take,
break the milk, and you get cheese. And from cheese, if
you... We are
daily doing that. You can make nice preparation, chana.
That is very
nutritious, full of protein. And you can make
rasagulla, sandesa, so
many other preparations from the casein of the cheese.
But they do not
know. Crude civilization, and take a lump of flesh and
boil it and
give little salt and black pepper and eat like animal.
This is
civilization. This is civilization. Just try to
understand. You have
to convince your countrymen that what is this
civilization, nonsense
civilization? Stop this kind of civilization. Learn how
to become
civilized. Don't claim yourself as civilized man and
eating like
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condition, I'm always very happy"? Is there anyone? That
rascal
civilization, they cannot understand. They are trying to
stop
miserable condition, but he does not know that miserable
condition is
his body. Just see how foolish (it) is. He does not know
that this
very body is the cause of your miserable condition. They
do not know.
They are trying to improve the condition. How you'll
improve the
condition? Just like in our Bengal there is a word, jadi
jau bange
kapala jabe sange (?). Just like people are going from
this country to
that to improve economic condition. But it is a common
saying that
"Wherever you rascal go, your fate will go with you."
Either you go to
England or India or here and there... Because people
are struggling
for economic development. But he does not know that I
cannot make an
inch of development beyond the destiny which is already
fixed up.
Already fixed up.
Don't you see that two men, they are working day and night,
very
hard. One man has become all of a sudden millionaire, and
another man,
he has no employment. Why? Why this distinction?
Both of them have
worked hard to improve economic development, but one has
become very
quickly millionaire, another is still struggling. He does
not know how
to eat tomorrow. Why this arrangement? Who has made
this arrangement?
So this is actually study--that you cannot change your
fate. Already
fixed up. The material condition of life, as soon as you
get a certain
type of body, your pains and pleasure already fixed up
within the body
routine work. You cannot make any change. Just like
the--I have given
many times-the pig, he's destined to eat stool. Therefore
he has been
awarded that type of body. So however you canvass this
pig, "Why you
are eating the stool? Take this halava," he'll not take.
It will not
take. Because his destiny means he has got that
particular type of
body. So these are finer
studies.
So
according to the body, everyone's happiness and distress is
already fixed up. You cannot change it. That is called
fate. That is
called fate. But you can change your fate if you take to
Krsna
consciousness. That is possible. So far your body
is concerned
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At night our
business is to sleep, and to indulge in sex. In this
way we are wasting time, night. And daytime, diva
carthehaya rajan
kutumba-bharanena va. And in the daytime, we are very
busy going this
side, that side. Why? To get some money, div a ca artha
ihaya.
Desiring where I shall get money? Where I shall get
money? Diva
carthehaya, and as soon as I get money, I spend it,
kutumba-bharanena
va, to maintain our family. So where is time for Krsna
consciousness?
There is no time sir.
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priti-yukta, he's not interested. Although he is at home,
he is not
interested at home. Therefore generally devotees, they
become very
reluctant in the interest of maintaining family,
children, wife.
Simply as far as possible, duty. So much interested, not
any more.
These are the signs. If you want to find out a
grhastha mahatma, then
he has got his family, he has got his children, he has
got his wife,
he has got his business. He has got to meet so many
other people, but
they are, he's not at all interested. Simply behavior,
official. "Yes,
yes, it is all right. Yes, it is all right. What you say
it is all
right, but I am not interested." This is called
disinterested. People
are generally very much interested in these
things.
So if
you want to find out a mahatma within the society, not as a
renounced sannyasi, then these are the symptoms. There
are other
symptoms. Nunam pramattah kurute vikarma, that we shall
describe later
on. These are the general symptoms of a mahatma
grhastha. He is not
interested in this bodily concept of life, or maintaining
very
opulently his family members, or talking very seriously
with persons
who are simply materially interested, dehambhara, just to
maintain
this body. Of course we require to maintain this
body. He is not
neglectful. There is no question of negligence. He takes
care of his
children, of his wife, everything, but without any
attachment. That is
recommended by the Gosvamis. That, anasaktasya visayan
yatharham
upayunjatah. You give education to your children, that
is required.
You maintain your wife, that is also required, no
negligence, but no
attatchment at the same time. No attachment, that I shall
sacrifice
everything for my wife, and children, and home. That is
not a
mahatma's business, because he knows that he cannot
improve the
destiny. Everybody has got his body with certain
destiny already
settled up. That you cannot change. Otherwise everyone
is trying to
become very rich, very important, there is no scarcity of
endeavor,
but not that everyone is becoming like that. That is
called destiny.
So
those who are believer in the sastras, believer in the Supreme
Lord, they believe in destiny also. Therefore sastra
says, tasyaiva
hetoh prayateta kovido na labhyate yad bhramatam upary
adhah. We
should try for advancing our Krsna consciousness. That is
our main
business. Tasyaiva hetoh prayateta kovido. Kovidah means
very expert.
He should try for advancing in Krsna consciousness, not
for material
advancement. This is civilization. That is, we have
already discussed.
Nayam deho deha-bhajam nrloke kastan kaman arhate
vid-bhujam ye. If
you think that, "If I work very hard, then I shall
improve my
position," that is not possible. Your position is already
fixed up.
Then shall I not try for my happiness? Yes. That is
replied in the
sastra. Tal labhyate duhkhavad anyatah sukham. You do
not try for
distress of life, why does it come? You do not ask God,
"Please give
me distress." Nobody asks, but why distress comes?
Similarly, if you
do not pray for happiness, if you have got happiness in
your destiny,
it will come, as the distress comes. Tal labhyate
duhkhavad anyatah
sukham. So don't be misled by so-called happiness and
distress. It is
already fixed up. Simply try for advancing in Krsna
consciousness.
That is real business.
Tasyaiva hetoh prayateta kovido. That business can be done
very
perfectly well when, mahat-sevam dvaram ahur vimuktes,
when we
associate with mahatma. It doesn't matter whether he's a
sannyasi or
grhastha, he must be mahatma. Mahatma means one who has
got
relationship with Krsna. That is described in the
Bhagavad...,
mahatmanas tu mam partha daivim prakrtim asritah,
bhajanty
ananya-manaso, that is mahatma. You cannot stamp
anybody and become a
mahatma. No. Mahatma's sign is, mahatmanas tu mam partha
daivim
prakrtim asritah, bhajanty ananya-manaso. He has no other
business.
Simply he has only one business: how to please Krsna.
That is mahatma.
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Therefore
in the Bhagavad-gita there is no other business
than
bhakti. There is no other business. Karma, jnana, yoga.
They are
described, but with the aim to culminate in bhakti.
Just like karma.
Krsna said, yat karosi yad asnasi yat tapasyasi kurusva
tat
mad-arpanam, "Give it to Me." This is bhakti. So
far jnanis are
concerned, Krsna concludes bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan
mam
prapadyate. Jnanis, after many, many births, cultivation
of knowledge,
when he actually begins to become a bhakta, then his
perfection is
there.
bahunam
janmanam ante
jnanavan mam prapadyate
vasudevah sarvam iti
sa mahatma su-durlabhah
This is for the jnanis, and for the karmis, yat karosi.
Yat karosi,
"Whatever you do, the result you give it to me." That
means, bhakti
misra karma, jnana misra bhakti. And for the yogis, he
says,
The first class yogi is, who is always thinking of Me. He
is
first-class. Yogi's business is to see God within the
heart. That is
real yogi. Dhyanavasthita-tad-gatena manasa pasyanti yam
yogino.
Yogi's business is to see in meditation always Krsna or
Visnu within
the heart. That is real yogi. Dhyanavasthita, by
meditation one has to
see continually. That is called samadhi.
yoginam
api sarvesam
mad-gatenantaratmana
sraddhavan bhajate yo mam
sa me yuktatamo matah
He is first-class yogi. So everything is there ending
in bhakti.
Therefore in the Bhagavad-gita, the only talk is about
bhakti, in a
different way, either through karma-yoga, or jnana-yoga,
or
hatha-yoga. The point is how to become a devotee, and
at the end He
concludes, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam
vraja. This is
the conclusion of, so these things cannot be understood
by anyone who
is not a devotee. Without being devotee, you cannot
understand.
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Acyutananda: How can we...
Prabhupada: I may say many things to you, but when I
say something
directly, "Do it," your first duty is to do that.
You cannot argue,
"Sir, you said me like this before." No, that is not your
duty. What I
say now, you do it. That is obedience. You cannot
argue. Of course,
Krsna never said anything contradictory, but if when one
thinks
foolishly that Krsna said something contradictory, no,
that is not to
be. You could not understand. So even though you could
not understand,
you take My direct orders now. Sarva-dharman parityajya
mam e..., that
is your business. The master says like that, and the
servant's
business is to accept it as it is, without any argument.
That's all
right.
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examples of mahatma. Don't misunderstand that we are
preaching that
mahatmas are only in India. No. By the order of the
Supreme
Personality of Godhead there are mahatmas even amongst
the birds, even
amongst the beasts, even amongst the lower than animals.
Because this
Krsna consciousness movement is going on in different
places, in
different circumstances. That is God's desire.
Yada yada hi dharmasya
glanir bhavati bharata tadatmanam srjamy aham. So Krsna
wants this.
Just like in your country there is welfare activities by
the
government. The welfare department is seeing that nobody
is unhappy
for want of money. Similarly, mahatmas, they are also in
the welfare
department of Krsna. They are sent to different
countries, different
places, different species of life, so that the living
entity may take
advantage of Krsna consciousness.
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So
Krsna is so friendly that He always lives with us just to turn
our face towards Krsna. Isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese
arjuna
tisthati. What is His business? He is simply waiting
for the time when
we shall turn our face to Krsna. That is His
business. But
unfortunately, we do not want Krsna. We want something
which is not
Krsna. That is our disease. Still, Krsna is giving
us facility.
Bhramayan sarva-bhutani yantrarudhani mayaya. Krsna
gives
intelligence, mattah smrtir jnanam apohanam ca, that "You
are My part
and parcel. Why you are struggling so hard in this
material world?
Come to Me. I will give you all protection." Aham tvam
sarva-papebhyo
moksayisyami. He is ready. But I'll not do. That's my
obstinacy. At
that time what Krsna will do? He is affectionate father.
"All right,
what do you want to do?" "I want to do like this."
"All right."
Bhramayan sarva-bhutani yantrarudhani mayaya. He
immediately orders
prakrti... Mayadhyaksena prakrteh suyate sa-caracaram.
"This living
entity wants a body like this. So give him a body like
that." Yantra.
That is called yantra. It is a machine. This body is the
machine. And
therefore we are changing, one body to another,
yantrarudhani mayaya.
This is our business.
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So
if I am now in a yantra, Mercedes car, and suppose next life
I
ride on another yantra which is four-legged dog, then
what is the
benefit of this kind of struggle for existence?
But that is going on.
Therefore Krsna warns, asraddhadhanah purusa dharmasyasya
parantapa
mam aprapya. "The aim of life was to achieve Me," Krsna
says, "but the
result is, because he does not hear what I say," mam
aprapya
nivartante, "again goes back," mrtyu-samsara-vartmani.
This material
world means to take birth and die. That is
called
mrtyu-samsara-vartmani. Now I am born as Indian or
as brahmana or
something like that. The next life, there is no
guarantee. Krsna does
not say that there is guarantee. Krsna says tatha
dehantara-praptih.
You have to change your body. Tatha dehantara-praptih
dhiras tatra na
muhyati.
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So if
you want to stop these varieties of body, then you should
give up all these nonsense desires.
Anyabhilasita-sunyam
jnana-karmady-anavrtam. You are jnani, you are karmi, you
are yogi,
but your desires are all different. One yogi wants that
"I shall fly
in the sky." One yogi wants, "I shall walk on the water."
One yogi
thinks, "I shall create gold and show magic to the rascal
people that
I am God." This is going on. One jnani, he is speaking
something, one
karmi... This is going on. Therefore there are
varieties, varieties of
desires. You have to stop these nonsense desires. That
is wanted.
Otherwise, you are implicated. You are implicated. So,
therefore you
can stop your desires only by becoming Krsna conscious.
Otherwise,
they will go on. Svamin krtartho 'smi varam na
yace. This is Dhruva
Maharaja said. He had desires, very, very great desires
that "I shall
have, I shall possess a kingdom greater than Brahma,
greater than my
father." He was insulted by his stepmother. This is
desire. This is We
are Action and reaction. So he desired that "I shall
have a great
kingdom--greater kingdom than my father." He went to the
forest and he
underwent very severe austerities, a five-years-old boy.
He saw, Krsna
came. So when He wanted to give him, fulfill his desires,
he said,
svamin krtartho 'smi varam na yace: "No, no, no, no. I
have nothing to
ask from You." This is Krsna consciousness. No more
desires.
Otherwise, karmi, jnani, yogi, and bhakta. Akamah sarva-kamo va
moksa-kama udara-dhih. Moksa-kama, the jnanis they want
moksa, to
merge into the existence of Brahman. The yogis, they want
siddhis,
some perfection, material perfection, to show some magic.
And the
karmis, they want sense gratification. Therefore Caitanya
Mahaprabhu
said that karmi jnani yogi sakali asanta. Asanta, they
cannot be at
peace because they are desiring. So long you want, you
desire, there
will be no peace. Krsna-bhakta--niskama, ataeva
santa.
So
this is the recommendation, nunam pramattah kurute-vikarma.
They
are mad after sense gratification and doing everything
nonsense which
is forbidden in the sastra. You know, those who are too
much after
fulfilling desires, they even kill his own men. He'll
kill his own
child. Because the mother desiring that "I have become
pregnant. It is
botheration. It will check my sense gratification. Kill."
Vikarma.
Nunam pramattah kurute vikarma. He doesn't see that what
will be the
result of it. Vikarma. Karma, vikarma, akarma. Karma
means prescribed
duties, according... Just like law. "You keep to the
right," this is
law. And as soon as you keep to the wrong side, left, it
is vikarma.
This is karma and vikarma. But for sense-gratification we
execute
vikarma. So therefore we are implicating and we
are preparing for the
next life. Yam yam vapi smaran bhavam tyajaty ante
kalevaram: at the
time of death these desires become prominent. Even
without desire we
get so many ideas and dream at night. So at the time of
death, on
account of our vikarma, we shall create a situation, and
the next life
we get a similar body. That's all. Nunam pramattah
kurute. Na sadhu
manye yata atmano
'yam.
I
have got already one body which is klesada. Everyone has got
experience. No one is here who can say that "My body is
very nice.
There is no klesa. There is no pains and pleasure. I am
very perfect."
That is not possible. As soon as you get a material body,
it must be
subjected to so many sufferings: adhyatmika, adhibautika,
adhidaivika.
Tribulations there must be. Material body means
klesada. Therefore the
Vedic civilization is to stop getting this material body.
That is
Vedic civilization. Not that increase. That is
explained in the
Bhagavad-gita. Two things are there. You must accept, you
must get the
service of Krsna. Otherwise you go on in this
way.
Mrtyu-samsara-vartamani. Asraddadhanan purusa
dharmasyasya parantapa
mam aprapya. If you don't get Krsna, then there is no
other way. There
is no other alternative. The only alternative
is
mrtyu-samsara-vartmani. You get one body and again you
die, again get
another body. This will go on. Therefore we should
not Na sadhu manye.
Rsabhadeva, boys, said, "This is not good." Na sadhu
manye yata atmano
'yam asann api klesada asa dehah.
So
this culture, this education, is practically nil. Especially
in
Kali-yuga, it is very regrettable.
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so-called scholar, doctors, Ph.D., D.H.C Just like that
Professor
Kotovsky said, "After finishing this body, everything is
finished." He
does not know what he is. This is the position. Therefore
the
so-called scholars, learned men, whatever they are doing,
they are
being defeated because he does not know his identity.
Unless you know
your identity, then how can you work for the goal of
life? If your
identity is mistaken, then whatever you are doing, that
is your
defeat. Yavat kriyas tavad idam mano vai
karmatmakam yena
sarira-bandhah. Everyone has got different types of
mentality. So
karmatmakam means... That is general mentality, that "I
shall work
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It is a
science. We are teaching that somehow or other
you
enhance your love for God. Then you are saved. This is
a science.
And how to enhance that love of Godhead? That is our activities:
to
rise early in the morning, to offer mangala-aratrika, to
dress the
Deity, to offer Him nice foodstuff, to observe festivals,
writing
books, distributing them. These are activities in
devotional service
that will save us from this repetition of birth and
death.
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Unless you
become devotee of Vasudeva, Krsna... Therefore Krsna personally comes and He
says, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja. That is
for
your interest. Krsna says that "You surrender unto
Me." It is not
Krsna's interest. If you surrender, not interest, Krsna does not lose
anything. He is omnipotent. He can create millions of
devotees like
you by His desire. He doesn't canvass. He is not
canvassing, that "You
become My devotee and I shall be very rich." No. Not the
purpose. It
is for your interest. The same thing. If you become a
devotee of
Vasudeva, then you are saved from this repetition of
birth and death.
It is not Krsna's interest. It is Krsna's interest in
this way, that
because you are part and parcel, you are son of Krsna...
Krsna is the
aham bija-pradah pita... As the father, rich father,
He does not like
to see that His son will become a crazy, mad fellow and
loiter in the
street. He doesn't want it. But if you do not come back
to home, there
is no loss of the father. But if you back to home of a
rich father,
then it is your interest. It is your
interest.
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Bhakti means
priti, real love. When I actually
love Krsna, that is called priti. Just like we love our
beloved, our
child or husband or wife... That is also not love.
That is a temporary
sentiment. Actual love is possible with Krsna. That is
actual love.
Once you love Krsna, it cannot be broken at any time. It
cannot be
broken, any circumstances. So therefore somehow or other
we have to...
Yena tena prakarena manah krsne nivesayet. Somehow or
other you must
engage yourself in loving Krsna. That is the success
of life.
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So even
one is brahmana, he is also under
the grip of material nature. And what to speak of one who
is a sudra
or less than a sudra. Everyone is trying to
improve himself under the
influence of certain modes of material nature. So when
one becomes
vipascit, viveki... Vipascit means enlightened. These,
my activities
under the influence of different modes of material
nature, this is
waste of time. Even if I become a brahmana, that is also
waste of
time, and what to speak of if I become a ksatriya,
passionate.
Passionate... This vaisya, this mercantile class of
men, they are
passionate and ignorance mixture. They are very active:
"I am very
running, I am very busy," but running here and there in
ignorance.
Just like you will see the monkey. Monkey is always very
busy, but
what is the meaning of his business? He is in ignorance.
As soon as a
monkey comes... You have so such disturbance. In India,
as soon as a
monkey comes, everyone wants to drive him away. Because
he has come to
become business and to make some loss. That's all.
That is his
business. Wherever he sits, he will move like this.
(makes sounds
moving arms back and forth) He is not at all silent. He
is always
active. But because he is monkey, monkey is a symbol
of... Ass, they
are symbol of ignorance. Therefore such kind of
business is useless.
It is simply harmful.
So when one comes to understand that "This is my business, this my
goodness, everything, it is all useless. Unless I become
attached, I
am a devotee of Vasudeva, Krsna, all these attempts are
simply futile
attempts," that is enlightenment. When one understands,
"Yes, my only
business is to surrender to Krsna, to love Krsna," then
he is to be
understood, he is enlightened, educated. Ei rupe
brahmanda bhramite
kona bhagyavan. That is fortune. Yada na pasyaty ayatha
guneham
svarthe pramattah. He does not know his interest. Na te
viduh
svartha-gatim hi visnum. They do not know that "My
svartha, my
interest, my goal of life, is to love, to find out God
and to love
Him. That is my real interest." So, so long one is not
enlightened to
that standard of life, then he is defeated. Then how he
is defeated?
Gata-smrtir, gata-smrtir vindati tatra tapan asadya
maithunyam agaram
ajnah. He remains a ajnah, foolish. And what is his
happiness? His
happiness is sex life. That's all. That is his happiness.
Maithunyam
agaram. He is in the prison house of this material
nature, but he does
not know that "I am in prison." He is simply enjoying the
three
things. Udaram varitha.(?) Udaram varitha: the tongue,
the belly and
the genital. That is stated here. Gata-smrtir
vindati. And to enjoy
this material, he has to undergo so much tribulation.
Tapan vindati.
Therefore Govinda dasa sings, sita atapa bata barisana, e
dina
jamini jagi re, biphale sevinu krpana durajana, capala
sukha-laba
lagi' re. In this country, there is snowfall. Still,
people will have
to go to work very hard, day and night. But why? Why they
are
accepting such hard labor? Somebody is coming from
India in this
country. The climate is not very suitable in comparison
to India, but
they have come here to work hard. Why? Sex pleasure.
That's all. He
will get money and he will have home and sex pleasure or
tongue
pleasure. So therefore it is said, gata-smrtih.
Actual. Actually, he
has forgotten. His own business, he has forgotten, but he
is entrapped
by a process of sense gratification. Although it is very
great
hardship and miserable condition, but he is satisfied
because this
sense gratification is there. Gata-smrtih tatra tapan
asadya
maithunyam agaram ajnah. Because he is foolish,
therefore he likes to
be imprisoned simply for sense
gratification.
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Pradyumna: "As long as one does not inquire about the
spiritual values
of life, one is defeated and subjected to miseries
arising from
ignorance. Be it sinful or pious, karma has its
resultant actions. If
a person is engaged in any kind of karma, his mind is
called
karmatmaka, colored with fruitive activity. As long as
the mind is
impure, consciousness is unclear, and as long as one is
absorbed in
fruitive activity, he has to accept a material
body."
Prabhupada:
parabhavas tavad abodha-jato
yavan na jijnasata atma-tattvam
yavat kriyas
tavad idam mano vai
karmatmakam yena sarira-bandhah
It is very quite natural, whatever you do, your mind will
be absorbed
in that business. Karmatmakam. Therefore our mind should
be engaged
always in Krsna: sa vai manah krsna-padaravindayor. Then
we can be
relieved from this sarira-bandhah.
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means To accept guru means the disciple should be very
very eager to
know. Sad-dharma prcchat. Adau gurvasrayam. Why
you accept a guru? "It
is a fashion." Fashion. Nowadays they accept a guru
fashion. "Everyone
has guru. Everyone has a dog. Well, let me keep a
dog." Like that. A
pet dog. So similarly, to keep a pet guru, that is not
One should be
very inquisitive: sad-dharma prcchat. And
everywhere the same thing.
Pariprasna. Tad viddhi pranipatena pariprasnena sevaya.
But don't make
inquiries cheap: "Here is my guru, and he's meant
for answering all my
questions. Let me go on questioning, questioning,
questioning." No.
Sevaya. You must serve. You must be ready to serve him.
Then you have
got right to make question. Otherwise not. Two things.
First of all,
you must find out a person where you can fully surrender,
pranipatena.
And then you can inquire, and the inquiry should be
compensated by
seva. Yasya prasadad bhagavat-prasada.
Sevonmukhe hi jihvadau svayam
eva sphuraty adah. The more you are inclined to render
seva, the more
the truth becomes revealed.
yasya deve para bhaktir
yatha-deve
tatha gurau
tasyaite kathita hy arthah
prakasante (mahatmanah)
It is a different science. The more you are inclined to render
service, the more spiritual truth becomes revealed. And
two things: if
you are not inquisitive, don't bother yourself to have a
guru.
Useless. There is no need. Tasmad gurum
prapadyeta. Tasmad. Therefore.
What is therefore? Jijnasuh sreya uttamam. If you are
inquisitive
about transcendental science, sreya uttamam... Sreya and
preya--two
things are there. Sreya means ultimate good, and preya
means immediate
sense gratification, it is preya. And sreya means
ultimate good. So if
one is inquisitive to know what is the ultimate goal of
life, for him,
a guru is required. But if he wants immediate some
sense
gratification, he doesn't require a guru. For sense
gratification
there is no need of guru. Even these birds and beasts,
they know how
to gratify senses. There is no need of university or
teacher. Say for
sex life, nobody requires to go to the university. They
know.
Ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithunam ca. These four things, there
is no need of
university education.
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There
are two kinds of strong avidya, ignorance, unawareness.
Sattva-guna, rajo-guna, tamo-guna. Rajo-guna and
tamo-guna is
covering. Tamo-guna is very densely covering, and
rajo-guna little
open, and sattva-guna means prakasa, there is
illumination,
brahminical qualifications. When one is in the
sattva-guna then he can
understand that "I am not this body. I am different from
this body."
For them, those who are in the sattva-guna, for them it
is easier. So
therefore the process is Human civilization means not to
drag somebody
who is already in the sattva-guna or in the family of
sattva-guna, to
drag him down to the tamo-guna. The modern civilization
is like that.
The allurement of material civilization is so strong and
so bad that
those who are by pious activities born in brahmana
family, they are
being dragged to the tamo-guna behavior like sudras. They
are learning
how to drink, how to eat meat, how to have illicit sex.
These are the
symptoms of tamo-guna, lowest type of tamo-guna.
There are different
degrees of guna. The degrees are so mixed up. Therefore
three gunas is
manifested into 8,400,000 different forms of life,
mixture. You can
calculate. We have several times calculated. Three
multiplied by three
equals nine. Nine multiplied by nine, eighty-one. So
therefore there
are so many varieties. So human civilization should be so
arranged
that never mind, it is so mixed up, you have to gradually
draw him
again to the sattva-guna. That is human civilization. Not
that drag
him again to the tamo-guna. Somebody, by pious
activities, by good
work, he's already in the sattva-guna, but the
arrangement The social,
political, economical arrangement is so bad that one is
dragged to the
tamo-guna. This is not civilization. This is degradation.
Civilization
means elevation. The aim is how to become disconnected
with this
material body. This is civilization.
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So, one has to be vipascit, learned, to understand the
interest of
life, self-interest. Everyone is working, especially the
karmis, the
jnanis, the yogis, and mixed devotees, they are working
for
self-interest. The devotees also, so long there is self,
there is
self-interest also. So there is little difference,
that the devotees,
they work for Super-self-interest. There is self, but it
is
Super-self-interest. And the karmis, jnanis, yogis they work for
individual self-interest. Self-interest there must
be.
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This is material world, aham mameti, "I am this," artho
'ham, balavan
aham. "I am everything," aham, "and this is mine. This is
my property.
This is my country. This is my society. This is my
nation." Mine,
mine, mine. And I, I, I. This is material world.
Krsna says, bhoktaram
yajna-tapasam sarva-loka-mahesvaram. The Supreme
Personality of
Godhead declares clearly that "I am the
proprietor." Sastra says, Veda
says, isavasyam idam sarvam: it is God's property,
everything. We are
claiming, our country, "This is my country," but as soon
as you go on
the beach of the sea, your country finishes, the land.
Then whose, the
water, whose water that is? But the foolish person: "No,
it is in my
throne(?), it is mine."
So
this is moha, illusion.
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sannyasi. Without becoming brahmana, there is no
question of becoming
sannyasa. In the Sankara-sampradaya they are very strict.
Unless one
is born in a brahmana family, he is not awarded the
sannyasa. That is
the stricture. But according to our Vaisnava, according
to Caitanya
Mahaprabhu, pancaratriki-viddhi, if there is little
tendency of the
person to become devotee, he is given the chance. Never
mind he's born
in a sudra family, a candala family. That is sanctioned
in the sastra:
kirata-hunandhra-pulinda pulkasa abhira-sumbha yavanah
khasadayah, ye
'nye ca papa. Anyone. Krsna also says, mam hi partha
vyapasritya ye
'pi syuh papa-yonayah. So Narada Muni, he is a great
devotee, he has
given allowance to everyone to become a brahmana, to
become a
sannyasi. First of all he must be trained up to become a
brahmana,
then sannyasi. This is a fact. Without becoming a
brahmana, there is
no question of sannyasa.
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Sri
Caitanya Mahaprabhu when He delivered Jagai-Madhai... This
Jagai-Madhai was debauch, drinking, illicit sex, meat
eating and these
things, degradation. These four principles are the four
pillars of
degradation. Therefore we prohibit. That if you want
to make progress
in Krsna consciousness, you must give up these four
principles. So,
Caitanya Mahaprabhu made this condition, that if you
promise that you
will give up these four principles of sinful life, then I
will accept
you. Never mind whatever you have done in the
past. Every man is
sinful, there is no doubt about it, more or less. That is
not
disqualification. If he agrees to give up that, then
immediately he
becomes liberated. That is Krsna also says in the
Bhagavad..., aham
tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami. Liberation is not
very difficult. It
can be obtained in one minute, provided you want to
take it. Just like
Krsna says,
sarva-dharman parityajya
mam ekam saranam vraja
aham tvam sarva-papebhyo
moksayisyami ma sucah
So, if you are free from the resultant action of sinful
life, then
you are liberated. If you get shelter at the
lotus feet of Krsna, and
do not act in such a way that you again fall down, then
you are
liberated. Liberation means, we have
several times discussed, hitva
anyatha-rupam svarupena vyavasthitih. Our svarupa means
original,
constitutional position is jivera svarupa haya
nitya-krsna-dasa,
eternally servant of Krsna. So as soon as we place
ourselves in our
original place, then you are liberated
immediately.
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Krsna
is not stereotyped, that He has to be served in this
way
only. No, Krsna can accept service in so many
ways. There are
dvadasa-rasa, akhila-rasamrta-sindhu. Just like Krsna
is enjoying when
Bhismadeva was piercing His body with the arrows.
He was enjoying.
This is also rasa. Bhisma, purposefully, he knows Krsna
is the Supreme
Lord, still, he is devotee, he was giving Him pleasure by
throwing
arrows on His body. So Krsna takes pleasure in that.
Krsna does not
take pleasure only when you throw rose flowers. He can
take pleasure
when you can pierce. If you are actually able to do that.
So that is
Krsna.
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But
the policy is that his money, which is accumulated for sense
gratification... In Western countries they accumulate
millions of
dollars and at the last moment he gives to his dog.
(laughter) There
are many instances, you know better than me. He has no,
nobody even,
because they do not marry, no children, no friend, so
the dog is the
best friend in Western country. Every gentleman must have
this best
friend, pet dog. So ultimately, because there is
nobody to give, he
gives it to the dog. Makes a will that my dog will get it
and they'll
give him jewelry, ornaments and so on, so on, so on. We
have got
practical experience, the big palace which we have
purchased in
Detroit, the man did not marry, so ultimately he
bequeathed the whole
estate to the dog. (laughter) And there is a tomb of the
dog.
(laughter)
So,
one has to do it. If he does not do it for God, then he
will
have to do it ultimately to the dog. So better, so long
you have got
money, spend it for God. San-nimitte varam tyago
vinase niyate
sati(?). This is the instruction of Canakya Pandita, that
whatever
money you have got, it will be spent. You cannot keep it.
Either the
money will go from you, or you have to go from the money.
You cannot
keep together. That is not possible. If you don't
spend the money for
Krsna, if you keep it, that "I shall see it. I shall lick
up this
money and become happy..." Krpana, that those who are
miser, they do
not spend money for Krsna but they see the money.
Therefore it has
become a problem for us, how to spend the money. How to
spend the
money for Krsna, that is our policy. We do not want to
keep money. We
cannot keep, that is not possible. Somebody will take it.
Ultimately
the government will take. Better spend it for Krsna.
Spend it for
Krsna that is the right use. San-nimitte varam
tyago vinase niya...
Canakya Pandita, he was great politician, he is advising
that if you
have got money, spend it for Krsna. Don't keep it. Spend
it for Krsna.
Why? It will be spoiled. Today or tomorrow it will be
spoiled.
Somebody will take and spoil it. Better, if you spend it
for Krsna, at
least your service will be recognized. Krsna will see
that this man is
spending his hard-earned money for Me. That is called
ajnata-sukrti.
This service to Krsna, this inclination, does not arise
unless one is
very, very, good asset he has
got.
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kotibhih sukrti(?). This desire that I shall serve Krsna,
it is not
ordinary thing. Na janma kotibhih sukrtibhir labhyate.
But it is
possible if we accumulate this sukrti, all right little
service,
little service, little service. Therefore the
preacher's business is
to engage these fools and rascals, who are very
enthusiastic in the
activities of sense gratification. If they are somehow or
other
engaged in Krsna's service, they accumulate sukrti,
sukrti.
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agreed, "All right, let us leave this place." So
immediately, they
transferred the whole village with their possessions,
cloth or
something, everything, within one hour. And they
transported by the
bullock cart to Nandagrama. That means, the idea is
the whole village
was transferred from one village to another within
very short time. So
the transport is required, the transport by bullock
carts. s
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there. So nature's arrangement, God's arrangement is
there. Transport
is required in the human society, but you can utilize so
many animals
for your purpose. But at the present moment,
ugra-karma. The transport
is there, but they have manufactured big, big buses for
transport,
big, big cars, and the animals, they are now killed and
eat. That's
all. This is civilization. This is civilization.
Not to reduce the
labor, but increase the labor. Therefore they are
called ugra-karma,
jagatah hita, and that will create disastrous condition
of the human
society. This is discussed in
Bhagavad-gita.
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So
these are the items we should, nirvaira-samyopasamena putra
jihasaya deha-geha. This is also one of the important
items, that I am
executing devotional service, but I have no detachment
from my family
life. The bhakti-yoga means bhaktih paresanubhavo
viraktir anyatra
syat. That is bhakti-yoga. Everyone can test, "How
much I have become
detached from my, this worldly affection. This is my
family, this is
my country, this is my society, this is my son, this is
my wife, this
is my children." This is moha. Janasya moho 'yam aham
mameti, we have
to give up this. If we have not been able to give up this
attachment,
worldly attachment, that means we are not making any
progress.
Therefore it is said clearly, deha-gehatma. Eh? Buddheh.
What is that?
Jihasaya deha-gehatma-buddheh. Atma-buddheh.
Deha-gehatma-buddheh.
Everyone is thinking "I am this body." Everyone is
thinking, "This is
my country," nationalism. "This is my socialism." "I am
brahmana, I
belong to the brahmanas," "I belong to the ksatriyas." "I
belong to
America." "I belong to India." This is
deha-gehatma-buddheh, and
yasyatma-buddhih kunape tri-dhatuke. Anyone who is
thinking like that,
deha-gehatma, sa eva go-kharah, he is no better than the
cows and the
asses, animal. Deha-gehatma-buddheh is animal
conception. One has to
come to understand that "I am not this body, I am not
this mind or
intelligence." Aham brahmasmi, I am part and parcel of
Krsna, Param
Brahman..
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sruti-smrti-puranadi-
pancaratra-vidhim vina
aikantiki harer bhaktir
utpatayaiva kalpate
There are so many they have invented. Just like Hare
Krsna mantra is
prescribed in the sastras, and they have invented so
many. Although
there is the name of the Supreme Lord, still you have
to follow the
sastra. If you say Rama Rama Rama, Radhe Radhe Radhe,
Krsna, there are
so many mentioned. That is also name, but you have to
follow the
sastra. Sastra says:
Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare
You have to take that. Not that you can say, nitai-gaura
radhe-syama,
hare krsna hare rama, no. Why? Is there any in the
sastra? No, you
have invented. What is the value of your invention? You
are not
perfect. But they like that "It is my guru, I have got
some followers,
I invent some type of chanting." This is nonsense. You
must follow,
mahajano yena gatah sa panthah. You cannot
invent…
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The
story of the potter The potter is planning. He has got few
pots
and he is planning, "Now I have got these four pots and I
will sell. I
will make some profit. Then there will be ten pots. Then
I'll sell ten
pots, I'll make some profit. I'll get twenty pots and
then thirty
pots, forty pots. In this way I shall become millionaire.
And at that
time I shall marry, and I shall control my wife in this
way and that
way. And if she is disobedient, then I shall kick her
like this." So
when he kicked, he kicked the pots and all the pots
broke. (laughter)
So then his dream is gone. You see? Similarly, we are
simply dreaming.
With few pots we are simply dreaming that "These pots
will be
increased into so many pots, so many pots, so many pots,"
then
finished. Don't make imagination, make plan. That
is... The guru, the
spiritual master and the government should be careful
that "These
rascals may not make plan. This rascal may not make
plan to be happy."
Na yojayet karmasu karma-mudhan. This is karma-jagat,
this world. This
material world is that. They are already inclined,
so what is the use?
Loke vyayayamisa-madya-seva nityastu jantuh. Just like
sex life. Sex
life is natural. It does not require any university
education how to
enjoy sex. They will enjoy it. Nobody... "Nobody is
taught how to cry
or how to laugh or how to enjoy sex life." There is a
Bengali saying.
That is natural. You don't require any education for
this karma. Now
they are making big, big plans to educate people how to
work hard.
This is waste of life. Educational institution should be
for teaching
people how to become Krsna conscious, not to become this
or that. That
is waste of time, because that program will never be
successful. Tal
labhyate duhkhavad anyatah sukham kalena sarvatra
gabhira-ramhasa. The
nature's law is working Prakrteh kriyamanani gunaih
karmani sarvasah.
Whatever
Therefore our Vedic civilization is that people are satisfied in
his own position, a brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra.
Whatever by
God's grace he got, he was satisfied. The real energy was utilized how
to become eligible to receive mercy of Krsna. That
is wanted, how to
learn how to surrender to Krsna. Then aham
tvam sarva-papebhyo
moksayisyami. That was the end. In India we find not
that... The great
sages, rsis, they wrote so many books, but they used to
live in a
cottage. Only the kings, the ksatriya, because they had
to rule over,
they used to construct big, big palaces. No one else.
They lived very
simple life, very simple life. Not waste time for
so-called economic
development, skyscraper building, subways and so on, so
on. This was
not Vedic civilization. This is asuric
civilization.
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how. So Krsna will be very much pleased if you
simply... Krsna says...
Here it is said that mal-loka-kamah. How one can go to
Krsnaloka or
Vaikunthaloka? Very easy. Very easy. Krsna personally
says. It is not
our manufactured word. Krsna said, man-mana bhava
mad-bhakto mad-yaji
mam namaskuru. Do these four things: "Always think of
Me." That is
Krsna conscious. Manmana bhava mad-bhaktah: "Become My
devotee.
Worship Me and offer obeisances to Me," and asamsaya,
"you'll come."
Mal-loka. Very good. Very easy thing. Asamsaya. "Without
any doubt
you'll come to Me." Why do they not accept this proposal
of Krsna? It
is not our manufacture. We are not washing brain. It is
Krsna's word,
that simply by doing four things, manmana bhava
mad-bhakto mad-yaji
mam namaskuru mam evaisyasi asamsayah, without any
doubt. That is
required. Krsna will be
pleased.
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you are delivered, you are liberated. Just like you will
find one
aeroplane is going up and up, up, up, and at a time you
will find the
aeroplane is no more seen (indistinct). That does not
mean he has
merged in the sky. He has got a separate existence, but
you cannot
see. Even one has got so high, it does not mean that he
has merged
into the sky. If he does not get another shelter, he will
come back
again. He will come back again. He has not merged. There
is no
question of merging. Brahmajyoti means the..., it is
the combination
of millions and trillions of sparks of living entities.
That is
brahmajyoti. They are not mixed up. They are just like
the sunshine.
The sunshine, it is not one homogeneous substance. There are millions
and trillions of shining particles. Combination is
called sunshine. It
is not that they are merged. Similarly, every individual
soul is
individual. Krsna says, "Arjuna, you, Me, and all these
soldiers and
kings, they were existing before, they are now existing
now, and they
will continue to exist in the future." So where is
mixture? You, me,
and all of you, we are different individuals, and Krsna
says--not
ordinary person--that "They were individuals in the past,
they are
individual now, and they will continue to become
individual." So where
is this question of merging? There is no question of
merging.
Mamaivamso jiva-bhutah jiva-loka sanatanah, eternally
they are
individuals, and eternally they will keep
individual.
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And if
you are really advanced in knowledge, then panditah
sama-darsinah.
Then you are actually pandita, not falsely to be called
pandita and
number one fool. That is not pandita. Panditah
sama-darsinah. The
defect of the modern civilization is that there is no
pandita. All
rascals. All rascals. Therefore they have
demarcated, "This is India,"
"This is America." No. Everything belongs to Krsna. Then
there will be
peace. If in the United Nation they simply pass one
resolution with
determination, that "The whole planet belongs to Krsna,
the Supreme
Personality of Godhead, and we are all His sons," there
is no trouble.
There
is no scarcity. Krsna has created this world in such a way
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So if
we actually formulate peace formula, then everything is
possible. Simply we have to accept the instruction of
Krsna. Our Krsna
consciousness movement is for this purpose. We are simply
requesting
to accept the Krsna philosophy. Then the whole world will
be peaceful.
There is no doubt about it.
bhoktaram
yajna-tapasam
sarva-loka-mahesvaram
suhrdam sarva-bhutanam
jnatva mam santim rcchati
These rascals, their mentality is like the dogs, and they
are making
United Nation. A dog can be united? Is it possible?
No. You bring
several dozens of best dog and ask them, "Please live
peacefully. We
shall give you food, everything." It is not in their
capacity to live
peacefully. So even there is already ample
economic development,
sufficiency, but because the mentality is doggish, the
so-called farce
of United Nation, they are fighting with one another. It
is not
possible.
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Just like in the Vaikunthaloka, that is... But in
the
material world, when one is not covered by the gross
body but subtle
body, they are called ghosts or pramathas. Those who
are good, not
harmful, they are called pramathas. And
those who are harmful... As in
this material world there are good men and bad men,
similarly, amongst
the persons who has no this gross body, they are
sometimes called
ghosts and sometimes they are called
pramatha.
So in
this way, varieties of life, beginning from the insects and
the aquatics, animal, up to the point of Lord Brahma. But
they are all
within this material world. It does not mean because
the Gandharvas,
Siddhas, they have got higher standard of life and power hundreds and
thousands times more than our power, do not
think that they are
liberated persons. They are not liberated person. They
are all
conditioned soul.
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protkhata-damstrayate. And indriya samyamah, the yogis,
they are
trying to control the senses. Yoga indriya sam... That is
the real
purpose. Our indriyas are so disturbing, just like
kala-sarpa. You are
sitting here. If one snake comes, immediately you'll be
all disturbed,
immediately. So to... Disturbing why? Because every one
of us, we
know, "Here is a kala-sarpa." Kala-sarpa means anyone it
bites,
immediately death. Immediately death. But this kala-sarpa
is dreadful,
vicious, so long the fangs are there. Protkhata
damstrayate. If the
fangs, the poison fangs, are taken away, or if you know,
"Here is a
snake, but the snake's fangs have been taken away,"
you'll not be
afraid. Visa hina sarpah. Visa hina
sarpah.
So
for a devotee this kala-sarpa-paali automatically
subdued
because they do not use the senses for sense
gratification. They are
engaged in the service of Krsna. If our senses are
engaged in the
service of Krsna, the poisonous fangs are taken away. It
is no more
dreadful. There is no need of practicing indriya
samyamah. Indriya
samyamah automatically. One who is Krsna conscious, he is
not
disturbed. Just like Haridasa Thakura. He did not go to
control the
senses, but because he was chanting... He practiced
chanting. A
beautiful prostitute at dead of night offered her body to
be enjoyed.
He said, "Yes, I shall satisfy you. Please sit down. Let
me finish my
chanting." This is kala-sarpa-paali
protkhata-damstrayate. He was not
even agitated. This is the benefit of becoming a favorite
servant of
Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu.
Thank
you very much. (end)
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So Rsabhadeva is teaching us what is the value of
brahminical culture.
Human society without brahminical culture is animal
society. We offer
our obeisances to the Lord, namo brahmanya-devaya
go-brahmana-hitaya
ca. Krsna is first of all interested to see whether in
the society the
brahmana and the cow is properly respected. Namo
brahmanya-devaya
go-brahmana-hitaya ca. His first business is to see
that the brahmana
and cow is being properly honored. Then jagad-dhitaya.
Then
automatically the whole world will be peaceful. This
secret of success
they do not know. Nobody is prepared to become brahmana,
and so far
cow protection is concerned, it is in the oblivion. This
is the whole
world position. Therefore it is in chaotic condition. It
must be,
because this is animal society. When these two things are
neglected,
it is animal society, and then other animal qualities
and
paraphernalia follow.
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Unless we control the base qualities, namely the modes of
ignorance
and passion, you cannot be happy. It is not possible.
Tato
rajas-tamo-bhavah. Rajas tamo-bhavah means kama and
lobha. So long I
have lusty desire and so long I have greediness to
acquire more and
more and more, to enjoy senses more and more That is
greediness. One
should be satisfied, the minimum
possible.
Ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithunam ca samanyam etat pasubhir
naranam.
Ahara means eating. Ahara, nidra, sleeping, and fearing,
and sense
enjoyment. These are required, but not for increasing but
decreasing.
Just like when a person is diseased he should not eat as
he likes.
Because he is diseased, doctor prescribes that "You take
little barley
water or glucose, no solid food, if you want to be
cured." Similarly,
these things are necessity so long this body is
there.
Ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithuna. But this should be
decreased, not
increased. That is human civilization, not to
increase. Just like the
Gosvamis in Vrndavana. They did not come here to
increase
ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithuna. No. They came here to
decrease.
Nidrahara-viharakadi-vijitau. That is wanted. This is
Vrndavana-vasi,
not that to live in Vrndavana and increase
this
ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithuna. This is not Vrndavana-vasa.
The monkeys
are also living in Vrndavana, and the dogs are also and
hogs are
living in Vrndavana. But they do not know how to
decrease
ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithunam. You'll see the monkeys. They
are also in
Vrndavana. But you'll find one male monkey followed by
three dozen
female monkeys. That is not vrndavana-vasa. Ahara-nidra.
That means it
requires brahminical culture, damo, samo. That is wanted.
That is
brahminical culture.
Unfortunately the present civilization, they are not meant
for
decreasing. They are simply increasing. The Western
civlization means
increasing the means of sense gratification, "machine,
machine,
machine, machine." So, and the brahminical culture
means samo damo
titiksa. Titiksa means without something I may suffer.
Suffer. So one
should be practiced to suffer. Suffer, that is tapasya.
Tapasa
brahmacaryena. Tapasya begins from celibacy. We are
practiced to sex
life or sense gratification. Tapasya means first of all
stop this.
Tapasa brahmacaryena. This is practice.
So to
become fit for going back to home, back to Godhead, it is
not
so easy. It is not so easily... We have to make our
material life
almost zero. Not almost zero--practically zero.
Anyabhilasita-sunyam.
That is wanted, practice. Therefore this, our Krsna
consciousness..
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In European and American cities we have seen how people
are working very hard,
beginning from morning at five o'clock till four o'clock
next night,
for sense gratification. So this is not civilization.
This is
condemned civilization. Nayam deho deha-bhajam nrloke
kastan kaman
arhate vid-bhujam ye. This is not civilization. This
is animal
civilization, working so hard day and night for
eating. That is the
business of the hogs and dogs. You will find the hogs and
dog, they
are loitering on the street whole day and night: "Where
is food? Where
is sex?" That is not civilization. They must be
peaceful brahmana. Of
course, not that everyone can be elevated to the position
of a
brahmana, but at least they must have the chance to see
that "Here is
a class of men, brahmana." That is wanted. Otherwise the
civilization
is failure.
Therefore it is said, na brahmanais tulaye bhutam anyat.
Actual
brahmana, not the so-called brahmana, that was the Vedic
culture. Just
like Krsna Himself. He is the Supreme Personality of
Godhead. When He
received Sudama Vipra, a brahmana, He immediately vacated
His own
seat: "My dear friend, sit down here." And Krsna's
first wife?
Devotee: Rukmini.
Prabhupada: Rukmini. He (she) took immediately the
camara. He (she)
said, "My husband is respecting." But he was dressed very
poorly, lean
and thin. Brahmana, because they refuse unnecessary
necessities of
life, sometimes they look very poor, poverty-stricken.
They are not
poverty-stricken. They are the richest. Mahatmanas tu mam
partha
daivim prakrtim sritah, bhajanty ananya-manaso. Those who
are engaged
in bhajana never think of their poverty. No. They are
not poor.
Otherwise, if Sudama Vipra, externally he looked very
poor, lean and
thin, not very nice cloth... Krsna is: "My dear
friend, sit down
here." He brought water, washed the feet, just
respectable person,
guru, brahmana. This is etiquette. Krsna is showing
personally. He is
the king. He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. He
also respects a
brahmana. When Narada used to come to Krsna, immediately
He would get
down from the seat and offer obeisances, and Narada was
smiling, "Just
see Krsna's lila."
So
this is the way, brahmana. That brahmana, the India, the
brahmanas, their sons later on, later ages, taking
advantage of the
facility offered to the brahmanas, so without
qualification of
brahmana, they wanted the facility for nothing, very
cheap. Therefore
the brahminical culture is failure now. They
are... They should be
real brahmanas, ssamo damo. But nobody is prepared to
practice samo
damo titiksa, but he wants the respect of a brahmana.
This is the
cause of India's culture being failure at the present
moment. They...
"First deserve, then desire." So without deserving, they
desired.
Therefore whole thing is..., it became false. So that is
not the
purpose. Even somebody says that "Without culture one
can remain a
brahmana," but sastra does not say that. Sastra says
culture is the
first consideration.
yasya hi yad laksanam proktam
varnabhivyanjakam
yady anyatrapi vinirdrsyeta
tat tenaiva vinirdiset
So laksanam must be, laksanam, the symptom, what is
brahmanas'
symptoms. So my request to you, the Europeans and
American boys, you
have been initiated as brahmana but you must practice the
laksana.
Otherwise, if you think, puffed up, that "Now I have got
the sacred
thread. My business is finished. I can do whatever I
like," no. That
is not. Laksanam. Laksanam means symptoms. That you must
observe,
laksanam. Yasya hi yad laksanam proktam. Then nobody
can check you.
You will be very much dear of Krsna. Namo
brahmanya-devaya go
brahmana-hitaya ca. If you keep yourself in the platform
of a true
brahmana as you are expected... It is not difficult.
We have selected
the four principles: no illicit sex, no meat-eating, no
intoxication,
and no gambling. That's all. If you keep to these
practices, then you
remain. And if you chant, then above brahmana, you become
Vaisnava.
Manmana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru.
Qualify yourself as a
brahmana. Qualify yourself as a Vaisnava. Then your
position is
guaranteed. Kaunteya pratijanihi na me bhaktah
pranasyati. Sure.
Guranteed.
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So Rsabhadeva is teaching us what is the value of
brahminical culture.
Human society without brahminical culture is animal
society. We offer
our obeisances to the Lord, namo brahmanya-devaya
go-brahmana-hitaya
ca. Krsna is first of all interested to see whether in
the society the
brahmana and the cow is properly respected. Namo
brahmanya-devaya
go-brahmana-hitaya ca. His first business is to see
that the brahmana
and cow is being properly honored. Then jagad-dhitaya.
Then
automatically the whole world will be peaceful. This
secret of success
they do not know. Nobody is prepared to become
brahmana, and so far
cow protection is concerned, it is in the oblivion. This
is the whole
world position. Therefore it is in chaotic
condition. It must be,
because this is animal society. When these two things are
neglected,
it is animal society, and then other animal qualities
and
paraphernalia follow.
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Unless we control the base qualities, namely the modes of
ignorance
and passion, you cannot be happy. It is not
possible. Tato
rajas-tamo-bhavah. Rajas tamo-bhavah means kama and
lobha. So long I
have lusty desire and so long I have greediness to
acquire more and
more and more, to enjoy senses more and more That is
greediness. One
should be satisfied, the minimum
possible.
Ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithunam ca samanyam etat pasubhir
naranam.
Ahara means eating. Ahara, nidra, sleeping, and fearing,
and sense
enjoyment. These are required, but not for
increasing but decreasing.
Just like when a person is diseased he should not eat as
he likes.
Because he is diseased, doctor prescribes that "You take
little barley
water or glucose, no solid food, if you want to be
cured." Similarly,
these things are necessity so long this body is
there.
Ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithuna. But this should be decreased,
not
increased. That is human civilization, not to
increase. Just like the
Gosvamis in Vrndavana. They did not come here to
increase
ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithuna. No. They came here to
decrease.
Nidrahara-viharakadi-vijitau. That is wanted. This is
Vrndavana-vasi,
not that to live in Vrndavana and increase
this
ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithuna. This is not Vrndavana-vasa.
The monkeys
are also living in Vrndavana, and the dogs are also and
hogs are
living in Vrndavana. But they do not know how to
decrease
ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithunam. You'll see the monkeys. They
are also in
Vrndavana. But you'll find one male monkey followed by
three dozen
female monkeys. That is not vrndavana-vasa. Ahara-nidra.
That means it
requires brahminical culture, damo, samo. That is wanted.
That is
brahminical culture.
Unfortunately the present civilization, they are not meant for
decreasing. They are simply increasing. The Western
civlization means
increasing the means of sense gratification, "machine,
machine,
machine, machine." So, and the brahminical
culture means samo damo
titiksa. Titiksa means without something I may suffer.
Suffer. So one
should be practiced to suffer. Suffer, that is tapasya.
Tapasa
brahmacaryena. Tapasya begins from celibacy. We are
practiced to sex
life or sense gratification. Tapasya means first of all
stop this.
Tapasa brahmacaryena. This is practice.
So to
become fit for going back to home, back to Godhead, it is
not
so easy. It is not so easily... We have to make our
material life
almost zero. Not almost zero--practically zero.
Anyabhilasita-sunyam.
That is wanted, practice. Therefore this, our
Krsna consciousness
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That is called greediness. The Vedic civilization teaches
that "Be
satisfied with the minimum necessities of life. Don't
increase
unnecessary necessities of life, and then you have to
work for it very
hard like hogs and dogs." That's all. Then you
have to work very...
Modern world, they have increased their unnecessary
necessities of
life, and therefore you'll find how hard working. In
European and
American cities we have seen how people are working very
hard,
beginning from morning at five o'clock till four o'clock
next night,
for sense gratification. So this is not civilization.
This is
condemned civilization. Nayam deho deha-bhajam
nrloke kastan kaman
arhate vid-bhujam ye. This is not civilization. This is
animal
civilization, working so hard day and night for eating.
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The bhakti-yoga we are teaching in this Krsna
consciousness movement twenty-four hours'
engagement. Superficially we
engage from four o'clock in the morning till ten o'clock
at night, and
that is resting time. But when one is advanced in
devotional service,
while sleeping he also serves Krsna.
That means twenty-four hours,
satatam. That depends on Because in sleeping you also
dream, so what
we do during daytime we dream at night. So if one is cent
percent
engaged in Krsna's service, naturally he'll dream also
at night. I
have seen one of our intimate relative. He was a
businessman, selling
cloth. So in dream also he was quoting price of cloth. So
that is
natural. That is not unnatural. Therefore we have to
practice. At the
time of death, somehow or other, if we quote the price of
Krsna, then
our life are successful. Therefore we should practice:
Hare Krsna,
Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare. Yam yam vapi
smaran bhavam tyajaty
ante kalevaram. If we practice Krsna, then naturally it
is expected
that at the time of death we remember Krsna. Then
immediately we are
transferred to the Krsnaloka, immediately. Tyaktva deham
punar janma
naiti mam eti. Immediately. There is no doubt about
it. Simple thing,
but it requires
practice.
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Vasudevah sarvam iti. That is pure sattva, when there is
no other
conception, simply Vasudeva. Vasudeva is the platform.
Just like
Vasudeva was the father of Krsna. When Krsna appeared,
Vasudeva was
the father. So suddha-sattva is Vasudeva. Vasudeva means
there is no
contamination of ignorance or passion, simply
sattva-guna. Tato rajas
tamo bhava kama-lobhadayas ca ye, ceta etair anaviddham.
When your
mind and consciousness will not be contaminated by the
modes of
ignorance and passion, that is suddha-sattva. That is
suddha-sattva.
That is spiritual platform, vasudeva. Then Vasudeva will
beget Krsna.
Sattvam visuddham vasudeva-sabditam. So if we purify our
existence,
another Krsna comes or Krsna's devotees come. They come
in
suddha-sattva. Sattvam paramam pavitram
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This child is so crying. From three
miles we can hear. Balanam rodanam balam. This is
strength of the
children, crying. They can disturb the whole world
(laughter) simply
by crying. So just see. This is the body,
immediately. You cannot cry
like that. Even if you are aggrieved, you cannot cry
so loudly that up
to four miles one can hear. That is not possible.
Why it is not
possible? Because he has got a different body and you
have got a
different. Everything is going on according to the body.
This is
maha-vimoha. This is going on, 8,400,000's of different
forms of body…
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se rase majiya, mukhe bolo hari hari. This is
instruction, that we can
chant the Hare Krsna maha-mantra, we can chant the holy
name of the
Lord, purely, without offense. Because if we can chant
Hare Krsna
maha-mantra once only--if it is pure--then
immediately you become
liberated. Ekara hari name yata papa hare, papi
haya tata papa
karibare nare. Harinama is so powerful that once
chanting, immediately
vanquishes the accumulated sinful reaction of millions of
lives. Papi
haya tata papa karibare. Every papi, sinful man, is very
expert in
committing sinful activities. But harinama is so expert
that once
chanted, the papi, the sinful man, will be failure to
commit sin
anymore.
But the difficulty is that we cannot come to the pure stage
of
chanting Hare Krsna mantra. Due to our past
habits our mind is
disturbed. We cannot concentrate. Therefore we have fixed
up the
minimum. We cannot imitate Haridasa Thakura. That is not
possible. If
somebody imitates Haridasa Thakura... We can see this
chanting Hare
Krsna and smoking bidi. We can understand what is the
position. The
offense is going on. Therefore we should try to avoid the
ten kinds of
offenses. Of course, in the beginning the offenses will
continue. But
chanting, chanting, chanting, chanting, as soon as we
become purified
Ceto-darpana-marjanam bhava-maha-davagni-nirvapanam. By
chanting,
chanting, chanting repeatedly, when our, the core of
heart will be
cleansed, ceto-darpana-marjanam, then
immediately
bhava-maha-davagni-nirvapanam, this
maha-vimoha...
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Kanistha-adhikari, he worships the Deity, but he does not
know how to
do good to others, neither he knows who is devotee. In
the
kanistha-adhikara, in the lower stage of devotional
service, one
cannot distinguish. But he should be engaged fully in
Deity worship so
that gradually he will develop his maha-bhagavata stage.
And
madhyama-adhikari means he knows how to make others
hari-jana, or
devotee.
isvare tad-adhinesu
balisesu dvisatsu ca
prema-maitri-krpa upeksa
yah karoti sa madhyamah
He not only worships the Deity wholeheartedly... That is
prema. Isvare
prema. But beyond that, tad adhinesu--he knows how to
respect the
devotees, tad adhinesu, isvara adhinesu. That
means other devotees.
Then he becomes madhyama-adhikari. If he simply
takes care of the
Deity worship and if he does not offer respectful
behavior to another
devotee, he is kanistha-adhikari. He is in the lower
stage. So isvare
tad adhinesu. He must see that "Here is a devotee." He
must have power
to see that “here is a
devotee”.
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It is not possible nowadays to imitate Rsabhadeva. Just
like the Jains,
they imitate that. What their imitation...? Not a single
Jain up till
now has become perfectly in the renounced order of
life. So they say
so. It was imitated by one king in the South India, and
he is the
originator, propounder of the Jainism. They say. But you
cannot
imitate Rsabhadeva. That is not possible in this age.
Better try to
follow the instruction of Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Krsna.
Your life
will be perfect.
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So here is incarnation of God, Rsabhadeva. Now there are
so many
rascal incarnation. Is it possible to pass stool and
make it surabhi?
Is it possible? So you can ask these rascals incarnation that "Pass
your stool here. Let us see first of all. Then we
shall accept you."
Practical. "We are fools and rascals. We want practical
test." So
sastra-caksusah. This is the injunction, sastra. Here is
sastra, that
the incarnation of God, even He passes stool, it is
fragrant. He can
do it. That is God. That practically you can see,
that the cow dung...
Cow dung, you can make a stack of cow dung here. It
will never disturb
you. You'll, rather, feel pleasure, passing through that
portion of
field where cow dung is stacked. You'll never feel any
disturbance
because it is pure. Cow dung... We have discussed
this point many
times. Where it is impure, that it makes pure. In
Indian villages,
still they use cow dung for smearing over the floor, and
it becomes
very nice, fresh, and purified. That is injunction of the
sastra, that
cow dung is pure. So if by the will of Krsna, by the
arrangement of
Krsna, even an animal's stool can become so purified, what to speak of
Krsna's stool?
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Krsna in truth. It requires time. He... Not all of a
sudden you can
understand. But if you stick to devotional service,
sevonmukhe hi
jihvadau svayam eva sphuraty adah, then He
reveals. When you engage
your tongue... It is also wonderful. To understand Krsna,
you require
your tongue. Generally we understand by seeing or by
hearing. Hearing
is there, but here it is recommended tongue, especially.
Why tongue is
used? Because if you simply chant Hare Krsna by your
tongue and taste
Krsna prasadam, you will understand Krsna. Sevonmukhe hi
jihvadau
svayam eva sphuraty adah. If you make it a promise that
"I shall not
talk anything except Krsna's message," and if you promise
that "I
shall not take anything which is not offered to Krsna,"
these two
things, this prasadam and chanting, will make you perfect
to
understand Krsna.
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shall continue to be individuals." There is no question
of oneness.
Oneness means to agree to serve Krsna. That is oneness.
There is no
disobedience, "Whatever You say, I accept"--that is
oneness.
Anukulyena krsnanusilanam. That is oneness. At the
present moment we
differ. We make differences. "Here is the opinion of the
American.
Here is the opinion of Indian. Here is the opinion of the
German. Here
is the opinion of the sudra, and so on, so on. So here
means
disagreement, always disagreement. Because I am envious
of you, you
are envious of me, so how there can be agreement? So
wherefrom this
enviousness has begun? Because we are envious of Krsna.
Because we are
envious of Krsna--"Why Krsna become God? I am also
God." This is the
beginning of enviousness, this rascaldom, that "Why Krsna
shall become
alone God?" He said, mam ekam saranam. "Why Krsna alone?"
They say,
the rascal philosophers say, 'This is sophistry. It is
demanding too
much. Mam ekam saranam vraja. Why? Why shall I accept You
as the
Supreme?" This enviousness begins. This is the beginning
of envy.
So we
become envious, each other. I am envious of you, you are
envious of me. So this Krsna consciousness is not
meant for the
envious persons. It is meant for very liberal, panditah
sama-darsinah.
One who has become sama-darsinah, he is perfectly
learned. And that is
very difficult. It is meant for them. Dharmah
projjhita-kaitavo atra
paramo nirmatsaranam. It is not meant for such
bhangi (?), one who
thinks that "My Hinduism is better than your
Muhammadanism," or he
thinks, "My Muhammadanism is better than your Hinduism."
The
matsaratam, it is in religious platform... There is
matsara. That
matsarata dharma, that kind of religious system... Just
like there are
everywhere the same thing. In Ireland the fighting is
going on between
the Protestants and the Catholics. Is it not?
Going on continuously.
Now it has become so dangerous that you cannot walk on
the street. At
any moment there will be bombs. Last time when I was
in London I had
the experience. All of a sudden our car was diverted. The
police came:
"There is bomb. You cannot go there." So this is
going on. In London,
in Germany, and other places it has become a terrible
place. At any
moment there can be bomb. And what is the bombing? The
fight between
the Catholics and the Roman Catholics and Protestants.
Just like we
have got experience, Pakistan and India, in 1947.
Calcutta itself
became divided into two, Pakistan and Hindustan.
Nobody was going.
There is one big road, Chitpoor Road. So up to Hanson
Road, it is
Hindustan, and after that, it is Pakistan. The
Pakistanis did not dare
to come to this side.
So
this is matsara. The matsarata, enviousness, that is the
nature
of this material world. Therefore Krsna
consciousness,
krsna-bhakti-rasa-bhavita- matih, it is very, very rare.
Rupa Gosvami
said, "This rare thing, if you can purchase, do it
immediately
wherever available."
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So
those who are atma-rama, those who have taken to
the
bhakti-yoga, their karma-phala is finished.
Karmani nirdahati kintu ca
bhakti-bhajam. They are not... The devotee may be
observed that he's
also engaged in ordinary work. He's also printing books
and selling
them and maintaining mathas and temples. "So he is
also doing
business." No, that is not business. That is
bhakti. Sometimes bhakti
appears to be like ordinary karma, but it is not karma.
It is karma in
this way, that the same peas, it looks like peas, but if
you sow it,
it will not produce anymore. Bharjitani.
Ava-bharjitani. Yajnarthe
karmano 'nyatra loko 'yam karma-bandhanah. If you work
for Krsna, it
appears to be ordinary work, but it is not ordinary work.
It is not
the cause of bandhanah. But if you work for Krsna, there
is no more
karma-bandhanah. Karmani nirdahati ca kintu ca
bhakti-bhajam. All
others... Yas tv indragopam maha indra... There is a
germ, it is
called indragopa. From indragopa to that Indra the
King of heaven,
everyone is bound up by the laws of karma. Everyone is
bound up. But a
bhakta is not bound up. How he can be bound up? Because
as soon as he
surrenders to Krsna, Krsna gives him assurance, aham
tvam
sarvapapebhyo moksayisyami; immediately
finish...
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"Never
trust woman and politician." So Canakya Pandita was not inexperienced; he
was very experienced. All the slokas of Canakya Pandita--very useful for
daily
affairs. So similarly, we should not trust the
mind, that "Now I have
become liberated." Never think so. We should
always remember that
liberation is not so easy thing, but if we follow the
rules and
regulation, then there is every possibility of becoming
liberated…
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If you keep always within your mind Krsna, Krsna's lotus
feet, you can
see Krsna's lotus feet, Deity, Baladeva, Balarama, how He
is nicely
standing... You can see the nice lotus feet. Don't try
to see the face
all of a sudden. Try, practice to see the lotus feet
constantly. Sa
vai manah krsna-padara... This is a chance. This
temple means to
practice how to think of Krsna's lotus feet, Balarama's
lotus feet,
always. Man-mana bhava mad-bhaktah. Immediately
you become bhakta. And
as soon as you become a bhakta, kecit kevalaya
bhaktya
vasudeva-parayanah, dhunvanti agham krtsnam: all kinds
of disturbances
will be subsided, dhunvanti. Niharam iva bhaskarah. This
is the sastra
injunction.
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Therefore in the beginning, the neophyte devotees they
should not try to understand the dealings of the gopis
with Krsna.
They should not try to understand. Unless one is free
from the
material concept, sarvopadhi vinirmuktam tat-paratvena
nirmalam. That
means we have to execute devotional service in the
regulative
principle. "I cannot follow the regulative principle
and I am trying
to understand Radha-Krsna prema," this is rascaldom. This
is
rascaldom. Only rascals will do that. He does not
see his position,
that "What is my position? I am still full of lusty
desires. My mind
is still disturbed by seeing a nice woman or nice man,
and I am
discussing Radha-Krsna?" This is nonsense.
Narottama dasa Thakura
said, rupa- raghunatha pade haibe akuti kabe hama bujhabo
se
yugala-piriti. Unless you are expert in devotional
service, by
practical application of the instruction of
Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu...
Rupa-raghunatha pade haibe akuti. Then if we are
qualified, then some
day we may be able to understand what is yugala-piriti,
love between
Krsna and Radharani. Not so sudden. That is sahajiya.
Not so sudden.
We should not try to do that. First of all I must see how
much I have
become sarvopadhi vinirmuktam, how much I am free from
the
designational position. Then we shall be able.
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Pradyumna: "Lord Rsabhadeva was the head of all kings and
emperors
within this universe, but assuming the dress and language
of an
avadhuta, He acted as if dull and materially bound.
Consequently, no
one could observe His divine opulence. He adopted this
behavior just
to teach yogis how to give up the body.
Nonetheless, He maintained His
original position as a plenary expansion of Lord
Vasudeva, Krsna.
Remaining always in that state, He gave up His pastimes
as Lord
Rsabhadeva within the material world. If, following in
the footsteps
of Lord Rsabhadeva, one can give up his subtle body,
there is no
chance that one will accept a material body
again."
Prabhupada.. So this is also opulence of Krsna.
Jadavad
avadhuta-vesa. Although He is the proprietor,
sarva-loka-mahesvaram,
still, this is another opulence, how to become renounced.
This is
another opulence. It is as good as the other
opulences. Aisvaryasya
samagrasya……queens, and millions of descendants,
yadu-vamsa. This is
another side, and this is another side, vairagya.
Jnana-vairagya.
Jnana. We can understand a little piece of His
contribution of jnana,
Bhagavad-gita. That is a little piece of His stock of
knowledge. Five
thousand years He spoke, and still it is being continued,
not only in
India, but also all over the world. This is jnana.
So
anyway--strength. When He was seven years old, Krsna, He
lifted the
Govardhana Hill. Jnana- vairagya, everything complete.
That is God.
Nothing less. Not that, that "I am rich man, but I
cannot lie down on
the street." Not that kind of vairagya. He is complete,
completely
different from a rich person. Akhila-loka-pala. He is the
controller
of
the whole universe; still, you see His vairagya.
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