Tuesday, 28 May 2013

"All of you , you become guru"-SP

Hare Krsna
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
Last night before falling asleep I read this below in the conversation books.
It is very instructive for devotees wishing for the blessings of God and Guru.
Hare Krsna is not a sit down do nothing spiritual movement. It is meant
first of all for ourselves,individually, and then we give what we have  learned
and assimilated to others.It comes in, and then goes out, but we feel invigorated by passing on this
transcendental knowledge to all whom we meet.
If one reads with an impartial mind all of Srila Prabhupadas books, one will
find him stating this axiomatic truth countless times-everybody you meet,
tell him about Krsna, and in this way, you become a guru. And in all these instances
including this one below, he NEVER says one should initiate those persons to whom
we give this knowledge to. Some devotees seem to think that "guru" means only the
one who takes one's karma, gives a spiritual name and tosses the grains into
the sacrificial fire. That is ONE kind of guru-that kind is Srila Prabhupada, not us.
We have seen what happens when devotees try to imitate the power and purity of a Maha Bhagavat
by imitating his behavior in the manner of taking on disciples.They fall down and cause
all kinds of nasty problems to themselves and others.
So best solution is to do exactly what he tells us to do. Tell others about Krsna, starting with
our family members and friends, and in THIS way, simply by telling them about Krsna, one becomes
guru- a siksa guru, not an initiating guru. There is a huge difference between the two.
Hare Krsna
Damaghosa das
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Therefore we don't say, "in my opinion," "our opinion." We say "Krsna
says this," that's all. Caitanya Mahaprabhu's mission is... He says,
                 amara ajnaya guru hana tara ei desa
                yare dekha, tare kaha 'krsna'-upadesa
   He says that "All of you, you become guru." Just like I am
requesting all Indians outside that I am alone trying to spread this
Indian culture, why not you also join? You also become guru. So how to
become guru?
Not that simply by advertising that one has become guru
all of a sudden, no. Guru means, as Caitanya Mahaprabhu says, yare
dekha, tare kaha 'krsna'-upadesa. Whomever you meet, you just instruct
him in what Krsna says, that's all. You become guru. It is not very
difficult to become guru, provided we simply preach the instruction of
That we are doing. We do not say that we are perfect, we have
become God, or we have so many, so many magic jugglery. No, we have
nothing to do, that. No magic, no jugglery, no God. Simply to become
servant of God, and whomever we meet, we speak the words of God,
that's all. Then you become guru. This is our mission
. That we may be
imperfect, that doesn't matter. We are imperfect. Just like this
child, he is imperfect. Everyone knows. But if he says, "My father has
informed me that this is microphone," so this knowledge of "is
microphone" is perfect because he has received from the father,
experienced father. And before hearing from the father, he may not
know that this is microphone, but since he has heard from the father
that this is microphone, and if he says to others that "My father has
said, 'This is microphone,' " then people will accept this is perfect
knowledge. So we should follow this instruction of Caitanya
Mahaprabhu, yare dekha, tare kaha 'krsna'-upadesa. So you, every one
of you, can become guru. You may say that "I am not interested to
become a guru," but Caitanya Mahaprabhu says that if you are not
interested, that is not very good. You should be interested. You must
be guru. That is success of your life.
You can speak the instruction
of Krsna, even to your family. That also guru. You are actually guru.
The father or the head of the family is guru to the children, to the
wife. In India still, the wife addresses the husband as pati-guru. And
father is guru. That is natural. So why don't you become real guru to
your wife, to your children, and instruct Bhagavad-gita as it is? This
is our mission. You sit down in the evening, chant Hare Krsna mantra,
and teach little instruction from the Bhagavad-gita. See how the life
changes. Is that very difficult task? Boliye.Indian man (2): No, no.
Prabhupada: So do that. Don't approach the cheater guru, bluffer guru,
and be cheated. Stop this business. This has spoiled the whole
spiritual atmosphere of the world. Take guru, the supreme guru, Krsna.
Krsna, when in Mahabharata when Maharaja Yudhisthira performed
rajasuya yajna, in the rajasuya yajna one person is elected the chief
guest. So in that yajna many big, big demigods were present, and
Bhismadeva was present, Vyasadeva was present, and many, many other
saintly person, brahmana, from the whole universe were present. And
Krsna was decided to be accepted as the... Everyone agreed to accept
Him as the chief guest. And the Sisupala, he protested. Then everyone
was angry to kill him. So Krsna is accepted the guru by everyone. By
our acaryas, recent acaryas, Ramanujacarya, Madhvacarya... I am not
speaking of the loafer class, but those who are recognized acaryas,
Sankaracarya... They accepted Krsna as the supreme guru. Caitanya
Mahaprabhu. So accept Krsna as the supreme guru and follow His
instruction and try to convince others. "Others" means even your
family members. That is success of life. Samsiddhih hari-tosanam
. Why
should you lead your life blindly? This human life is meant for
enlightenment, supreme enlightenment, and this is supreme
enlightenment, to understand the teachings of Bhagavad-gita and preach
it as far as you can. If not, you can preach amongst your family
members. This is perfection of life
. What is that verse? Ya imam
paramam guhyam mad-bhaktesv abhidhasyati. That is the desire of Krsna.
                        ya idam paramam guhyam
                      mad-bhaktesu abhidhasyati
                       bhaktim mayi param krtva
                       mam evaisyaty asamsayah
   "For one who explains the supreme secret to the devotees,
devotional service is guaranteed, and at the end he will come back to


  1. Hare Rama,
    pamho. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

    Another mistake I made, is that I started to preach to all my friends without even chanting 16 rounds/4rtules&regulations when I was new to Krishna Consciousness. As a result I absorbed Karma and am still suffering the reactions to some degree.

    So the Standard for a Preacher/Shiksha Guru is pretty high:

    "Do not hear from mouths of persons lacking proper conduct. If your conduct is below par you should not publicly preach about the Lord. Close the door and preach to yourself. Bhajan really begins when one’s outside and inside are the same."[Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati]

    So as far as I understand a Shiksha Guru/Preacher, must be following the 4 rules&regulations and chant 16 rounds, otherwise he absorbs Karma and falls down.

    This is what happened to the former Ritvik Gaurahari Dasa. He was preaching and didn't chant 16 rounds/follow rules and regulations and now he fell down and promotes himself as a Guru.

    I personally had to learn the hard way, that preaching in a contaminated state can backfire badly. Even 3 years later my spiritual life is damaged and I could only recently start chanting Maha Mantra again.


  2. THanks for the comment Rob.

    Jaya Prabhupad!

    Hare Krsna from BP