Hare Krsna to all
Pranams
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
Its been a while, but here is the last part of SB classes
Vol 7 summarized
Some points of interest...
1.the senses belong to Krsna but everyone uses them for
his own purposes
2.chant Omkara go to bramajyoti, chant Hare Krsna go to
spiritual world
3.our miserable conditions caused by our thinking I am
the enjoyer, proprietor
4.when you see a flower, that is Krsna smiling
5.why do people drive so many hours to work-sex
desire
6.woman has 3 stages in life, a man has got 10
stages
7.when we chant and dance Hare Krsna, we forget we are
these bodies
8.out of thousands of muktas, its difficult to find one
Krsna bhakta
9.how to become detached from all this hard working?
Sadhu sanga
10. and much more....
Hare Krsna
Damaghosa das
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750105SB.BOM
Lectures
So
the Aniruddha, He is the master of the senses, as it is
stated
here, hrsikanam adhisvaram, adhisvaram, master,
proprietor. So the
common sense is that if my hand is the property of Krsna,
why it
should be used for me? It should be used for Krsna. This
is good
sense. Suppose something belongs to somebody else. If you
use it for
your purpose, that is illegal, not lawful. This is my
watch. If you
take away this watch and use for your purpose, then it
is criminal.
You cannot say the watch is being used either by him or
by... It is
being used, that's all. No. You cannot use it. You can
use it only by
the permission of the proprietor. Without permission of
the
proprietor, if you use it, then you are criminal or you
are sinful.
Similarly, we have got all the senses. The senses are
meant for
working. The eyes are meant for seeing, the ears are
meant for
hearing, the nose is meant for smelling, the hand is
meant for
touching, the leg is meant for going, the stomach is
meant for
eating--so many, we have got, different senses. They are
meant for
different purpose. But if the purpose is for your sense
gratification,
then you are criminal because you are not proprietor.
This is to
understand bhakti. If you do not use all the senses for
Krsna's
purpose, then it is criminal. That is called
papa.
So
you are doing that. Every one of us, who is doing for
Krsna?
Nobody is doing for Krsna. Everyone is doing for his
own purpose. He
is taking one flower. The devotee is bringing the flower:
"Oh, very
nice flower. Let me take it to the temple and offer it to
Krsna." That
is devotion. The same flower, "Oh, it is very nice
flower. Oh, let me
pin it on my bunch of hair." That is papa. The same
thing. You must
know how to utilize it. That is called bhakti. Everything
can be
utilized. Nirbandhah krsna-sambandhe yuktam vairagyam
ucyate. That art
we have to learn. Anasaktasya visayan. Visayan
means objectives for
sense gratification, visayan. Ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithunam
ca. These
are called visaya--eating, sleeping, mating, and
defending. Visaya.
So we
are visaya. Everyone are. We are eating. Everyone is eating.
Who can say, "I am not eating"? So visaya. So our
business should be
not to be attached for eating. Then shall I starve and
die? No, you
eat Krsna prasadam. Eating is not stopped. Eating is not
stopped.
Eating means as you are cooking for yourself at home, the
same
cooking, do it for Krsna and offer it to Krsna and eat
it. That's all.
The mode of life should be changed. That is Krsna
consciousness. It is
not that you shall give up eating. No, how can I give you
that? No, it
is not possible. Neither Krsna says, "Just give up
eating." Never you
will find in the Bhagavad... Yuktahara-viharasya. You
must eat what
you need. Yuktahara-viharasya yogo bhavati duhkha-ha.
Krsna never says
that "Unnecessarily you starve." You never find in the
Bhagavad-gita;
neither any acarya will say. Rather, you offer to Krsna
first-class
foodstuff because He is the enjoyer, and Krsna is so
kind, He will
leave everything for you for taking prasadam. So
automatically you can
satisfy your tongue. You offer to Krsna first-class food,
and Krsna is
so kind that He will eat; at the same time, He will keep
it for you.
Purnasya purnam adaya purnam eva avasisyate. Krsna's
eating is not
like that: because you have given Him very nice
foodstuff, He will eat
everything and nothing for you. (laughter) That is not
Krsna. Krsna
eats everything, He accepts your service, and keeps
everything for
you.
So
this is bhakti-marga. It is very nice. Simply you have to
learn
how to engage your senses. Hrsikena hrsikesa-sevanam
bhaktir ucyate.
Your senses are property of Hrsikesa.
… This
is Krsna consciousness. You have to act by the desires of
Krsna. That is the proper use of your senses. You cannot
use for your
purpose. Anything... Just like you are working in some
establishment.
Anything in that establishment, you can use for the
proprietor's
business. You cannot use it. Just like in hospital
there are blankets.
It is written there, "Hospital Property." So long you are
in the
hospital, you can use it. But you cannot take it outside.
Then you are
criminal. Similarly, everything... Isavasyam idam
sarvam. Everything
belongs to God, and you can use it for the service of
God. You can use it as prasadam, but everything should be offered to the
Supreme. Yajnarthe karmanah loko
'yam karma-bandhanah. If you do not do that, if you
engage yourself
always in good activities, as the karmis they do, and
earn money and
use it for your own sense gratification, that is papa
activity.
"Those who are cooking in the kitchen very palatable
dishes for
satisfying the tongue, they are simply eating sinful
things." Ye
pacanty atma-karanat.
So
therefore, if we become sinful every moment, how we can
become
happy? It is not possible. If you want to become happy,
you have to
become pious. And the standard of piety is to become
Krsna conscious,
devotee of Krsna. That is the highest perfection of
life.
Thank
you very much. (end)
750109SB.BOM
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sound... The sound is sabda-brahma. Sound is actually
spiritual, the
Vedic sound om, omkara. Omkarasmi sarva-vedesu. So Vedic
sound begins:
om. So that is a sound. So if we capture that sound and
make further
progress, sabdad anavrtti... In the Vedanta-sutra it is
there,
anavrtti, no more repetition of birth and death, omkara.
If one can
chant omkara at the time of death, immediately
transferred to the
spiritual world, impersonal spiritual effulgence. But if
you can chant
Hare Krsna, then immediately you go to the spiritual
planet. These are
stated in the Bhagavad-gita. Anta-kale, at the time of
death, if you
can capture this sound, omkara or Hare Krsna... If you
capture omkara,
then you are transferred to the spiritual sky.
750116SB.BOM
Lectures
So we require
protection. Therefore, mahatmanas tu mam partha
daivim prakrtim asritah. The mahatma, they are also given
protection
by daivi-prakrti, Krsna's maya. Therefore we chant "Hare
Krsna," not
alone "Krsna." Hara is Krsna's energy, so we first of
all take the
shelter of Krsna's energy, daivi-maya, Radharani.
In Vrndavana they
chant "Radha-Krsna," "Jaya Radhe." The general addressing
is "Radhe,"
like that. So to take shelter of the daivi-maya...
Mahatmanas tu mam
partha daivim prakrtim asritah. If we take shelter of
the daivi-maya,
Radharani, then She will give us intelligence in such a
way that we
can take shelter of Krsna perfectly
750117SB.BOM
Lectures
There is
another example: the potter's wheel. Potter's wheel is
producing
earthen pots. So what is the cause? Somebody will say
that "The dirt,
earth, is the cause of this pot because it is made of
earth." Another
will say, "No, the cause is the wheel. Because the wheel
is going
around, therefore it is coming out." But these two
causes, prakrti and
pradhana, ingredients and the instrument, they are not
causes. The
cause is the potter. Cause is the potter. The
potter is giving force
going around. You have seen it. With the rod it moves
like that. When
the wheel is in motion, then the earth is brought into a
shape of
different shape of pots. Therefore material cause,
remote cause,
efficient cause--they are not cause. Real cause is
Krsna,
sarva-karana-karanam.
750117SB.BOM
Lectures
Now, sastra
says that avicyutah arthah. Arthah means purpose. If
somebody asks, "What is the purpose of becoming
scientist? What is the
purpose of becoming physicist?" so different men will
give different
answers: "It is meant for this purpose. It is meant for
this purpose."
But kavibhih, those who are actually learned, advanced
learning, they
have said that avicyuta. Avicyuta means without any
failure, without
any contradiction. You say that chemistry is required for
this
purpose. I say chemistry is required for this purpose.
Another man
says chemistry is required for this purpose. But
difference of
opinion. That is not accepted. Avicyuta, infallible
purpose. What is
that infallible purpose? Avicyutah arthah kavibhir
nirupitah. Nirupita
means it is already settled. You haven't got to make
research anymore.
Nirupita means it is already concluded. What is
that?
Yad-uttamasloka- gunanuvarnanam. If you can explain the
activities of
Krsna, Uttamasloka, how He is acting, how is the chemical process is
going on under His direction, if you can write a thesis
on this
subject matter, that ultimately Krsna is behind that,
then your this
study of chemistry is perfect. Avicyutah arthah
kavibhir nirupitah.
Nirupita means it is concluded. No more argument. That
is the purpose.
That means if you are intelligent enough actually, then
through any
source of knowledge you come ultimately to Krsna. That
mayadhyaksena
prakrtih suyate sa-caracaram. The Krsna says. But if by
your
education, if you come to the same point, that "Here is
Krsna. He is
in the background, sarva-karana-karanam, cause of all
causes," then
that education is perfect. Otherwise it is srama eva hi
kevalam.
Otherwise it is simply laboring for nothing, waste of
time
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... also one of the varieties. So how we can become
variety-less,
nirvisesa? That is not possible. Even artificially we try
to become
nirvisesa, variety-less, our constitutional position is
that we want
variety. How it can be stopped? Therefore in the
sastra it is said,
the so-called Mayavadi, impersonalist, monist,
aruhya krcchrena param
padam tatah, although they get ... lotus feet, they
come down again in
this material world and worship the feet of maya. That is
their
position. Aruhya krcchrena param padam tatah
patanty adhah. And as
soon as you are engaged in the service of maya, that is
your adhah
patanti. Adhah patanti. As we, all these materialistic
person who are
within this material, you are serving maya... Everyone is
serving.
Nobody is without serving. But they are serving maya. So
you have to
transfer your service from maya to Krsna. Then
your life will be
successful and you will taste different varieties of prasadam perpetually and
enjoy
life eternally and blissfully. Thank you very
much.
750118SB.BOM
Lectures
abhinivesa. The mind being affected by the material
contamination, we
are suffering so-called miserable condition of life. It
is due to the
mind. Otherwise, as it is said, one man is satisfied in a
very poor
condition of life, and another man is not satisfied even
in the best
opulent condition of life. Why? It is due to the
mind. It is due to
the mind….
…
bhoktaram yajna-tapasam
sarva-loka- mahesvaram
suhrdam sarva-bhutanam
jnatva mam santim rcchati
Santi. If we learn these three things, then we'll get
santi. Santi,
that is clearly explained in Caitanya-caritamrta also. It
is said in
the Bhagavad-gita, Krsna says, jnatva mam. "Me," Krsna
says--person.
Just like "Give me."
So
Krsna says, jnatva mam. What is that? So we have to know
Krsna,
that He is actually enjoyer. Master and servant. If the
servant knows
that "In this house my master is the proprietor. He is
the enjoyer. I
am simply servant," then he is peaceful. But if he
artificially tries
to become the master although he is servant there, then
there is all
disturbance. So here our miserable conditions
are caused by our
thinking that "I am the proprietor. I am the
owner. I am the enjoyer."
One becomes to owner, proprietor, because he wants to
enjoy. So this
is our disease. Actually, we are servant of Krsna. Jivera
svarupa haya
nitya-krsna-dasa. This is our original position. We are
servant, even
in this condition. But we are servant of maya,
illusion--means we are
servant of our lusty desires, kama, krodha, anger, lobha,
greediness,
moha, illusion, so many, mada, madness. We are servant of
these
propensities. We are not master. When you become master
of these sense
gratification processes, then you are svami
750119SB.BOM
Lectures
aroma from the earth. So the good smell of the flower...
In some other
place it is said in the Bhagavatam that the..., when you
see flower,
you see Krsna smiling. That is the seeing of Krsna
smiling. Therefore
the flower should be utilized for Krsna's service.
750121SB.BOM
Lectures
223317/530501
This
material world means first of all we
have got desire of sex, mixing together, man and woman
..This morning was...
Some devotee was discussing that the daily passengers,
sometimes they
go from home three to four hours, come to Bombay, and
they work their
eight hours. Then again three to four hours. So
somebody was asking,
"Why they should go? They can remain in the city." No.
Their central
point is there. Central point is
sex. Nidraya hriyate naktam vyavayena
ca va vayah. The materialistic person's life is being
spoiled in this
way.
That is described by Sukadeva Gosvami. Nidraya hriyate naktam:
"At
night they spoil the valuable time by sleeping." Nidraya
hriyate
naktam vyavayena ca va vayah. Vyavaya. Vyavaya means sex.
"Either by
sex or by sleeping." Diva carthehaya rajan
kutumba-bharanena va: "And
during daytime they are after money, 'Where is money?
Where is money?'
And if they get money, 'How to spend it for kutumba, for
family
members?' " This is material life
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... but if
we take it, accept it as prasadam after offering Krsna...
In the Vaisnava philosophy, if somebody is going to use
one new pair
of cloth, first of all he offers to Krsna. Then he
utilizes. That is
Vaisnava philosophy. There is also eating,
sleeping. We require
residence. Everything we require. But we require it
...
750122SB.BOM
Lectures
So ether, the sky, we cannot see, we cannot touch, we
cannot smell.
But we can hear the sound. As soon as there is sound,
that, we know
that there is ether or sky. The sound vibration... As we
have got
experience of this material sound and therefore the
material sky,
similarly, there is spiritual sound and there is
spiritual sky.
Without sky, there is no sound. So there is spiritual
sky. We get
information from sastra: paravyoma. Vyoma is called sky,
and there is
another sky. This is material sky, what we have
experience. There is
spiritual sky.. So after this sky, there is another
sky, and the
sound produced from that sky is omkara and Hare Krsna
mantra. This is
the sound vibration from the spiritual sky. Therefore it
is effective
immediately. Just like you contact thousands of
miles away--somebody
is speaking, and you can contact by the sound vibration
you catch up
with your machine, radio machine--similarly, the sound
vibration from
the spiritual sky you can also receive. That is Hare
Krsna mantra.
Therefore Narottama dasa Thakura has described this Hare
Krsna
mantra, "not of this material sky." Golokera
prema-dhana,
hari-nama-sankirtana. Hari-nama-sankirtana, this is not a
material
750122SB.BOM
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But in the spiritual world, the name and the person or
the
substance is the same. There is no difference. Krsna and
Krsna's name
is the same. There is no difference. Therefore,
those who are chanting
"Krsna, Krsna, Krsna," they are becoming more and more
engladdened,
enthusiastic to chant. Anandambudhi-vardhanam. Caitanya
Mahaprabhu
says, "By chanting Hare Krsna, the first installment of
benefit is
ceto-darpana-marjanam: you become cleansed of your heart,
cleansed of
the contamination of your heart." There are many verses.
Srnvatam
sva-kathah krsnah punya-sravana-kirtanah. If you don't
get anything
because there is nama-aparadha, offenses in
chanting... There are ten
kinds of offenses. So if you can avoid the offenses...
The name is
pure, "Krsna." But even though it is chanted
offensive, by chanting,
chanting, you become cleansed.
Ceto-darpana-marjanam. It may take
little time, but be sure that your consciousness will be
cleansed,
clear, transparent, and that is Krsna
consciousness.
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... by the spiritual master. So how is that?" He was
feeling little
agitation. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu immediately encouraged
him, "Don't
hesitate." This is Caitanya Mahaprabhu's example. He is
teaching
everything by His personal example. His purpose was
that in this
Kali-yuga the distinction between brahmana, ksatriya,
vaisya, sudra
will be almost finished. ...
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223377/530501
Now,
this Devahuti's position is a perfect woman. She got good
father, she got good husband, and she got excellent
son. So woman has
got three stages in life. Man has got ten stages.
These three stages
mean that when she is younger, she must live under the
protection of
father. Just like Devahuti when she was grown up, young,
she proposed
her father that "I want to marry that gentleman, that
yogi." And the
father also offered. So, so long she was not married she
remained
under the protection of the father. And when she was
married she
remained with the yogi husband.
750601SB.HON
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rajo-guna, tamo-guna, you can make progress spiritual
life. Because we
must be in either of these. Just like a train is going
on: there is
first class, second class, third class. So because the
train is going,
either you place yourself in the first-class compartment
or second
class, you will go. You will go. It is not that
because you are
situated in the third-class compartment the your train
is not going.
No, you can go. Similarly, Bhagavad-gita has taught
that one can go
back to home, back to Godhead, in any position, provided
he knows how
to tackle the situation.
Sva-dharma. Sva-dharma will be explained, and it is explained
in
the Bhagavad... Sva-dharma means one may be in goodness,
one may be in
passion, one may be in darkness, and one may be in
mixture. So that is
divided into four classes of men: the brahmana, ksatriya,
vaisya, and
sudra. So Bhagavad-gita teaches us that anyone, if he
worships the
Supreme Personality of Godhead by sva-dharma, by his
occupational
duty, he also becomes perfect. For example, just like
Arjuna. He was a
military man, and his sva-dharma, his occupational duty,
was to fight.
So that fighting capacity he engaged himself in the
service of Krsna,
and he became a devotee. Krsna certified, bhakto
'si. What did he do?
He did not chant Hare Krsna mantra. Of course, he was
chanting Hare
…Krsna mantra constantly because he was thinking of
Krsna. He had no
other business than to think of Krsna. But by formality
he did not
become a Vaisnava or chanting. But he was always thinking
of Krsna.
Therefore he is certified as the foremost yogi.
Yoginam api sarvesam.
So
that is the trick--how we shall always think of Krsna even
we
are engaged in our occupation duty. That will make us
perfect.
751026SB.NAI
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if you do not understand, then you are animal. Here is a
practical
example. How it has become possible that the white
Americans,
Europeans, and other colors and the black African, they
have forgotten
everything? When they chant Hare Krsna and dance, do
they remember
that "I am African," "I am American," "I am Indian"?
No.
Brahma-bhutah. (devotee laughs) (aside:) Why you are
laughing? It is
so important thing.
So
this is brahma-bhutah stage.
brahma-bhutah prasannatma
na socati na kanksati
samah sarvesu bhutesu
mad-bhaktim labhate param
This is brahma-bhutah stage, practical, not that "I am
Brahman. I am
the same God." These rascals have spoiled the whole
thing. Here is
brahma-bhutah stage, when you forget your material
identification and
you become one in connection with Krsna, that "We are all
devotees,
servants of Krsna. Let us enjoy, chant Hare Krsna and
dance." This is
brahma-bhutah stage, not that artificially smoking
cigarette and he
has become brahma-bhutah. He is cigarette-bhutah.
Bhuta and cigarette
smoker. How he is brahma-bhutah? These rascals say like
that, table
talks, "I am Brahman." Brahman. Doing all nonsense and he
has become
Brahman.
751027SB.NAI
Lectures
So
dhyayed devam samagrangam. The dhyana, the meditation, should
begin from the lotus feet. As soon as you begin
kirtana, first of all
concentrate your mind on the lotus feet, not all of a
sudden jump over
the face. Be practiced to think over the lotus feet, then
still
higher, the knees, then the thighs, then the belly, then
the chest. In
this way, at last go to the face. This is the
process. It is described
in the Second Canto. The process is how to think of
Krsna. Man-mana
bhava mad-bhaktah. This is meditation.
. Pious means there is no reaction of sinful life. It is
all squared up. That you can do at any moment. Krsna takes charge. Krsna says,
buddhih sarva-papebhyo
moksayisyami. He can do that. He can nullify the
destiny.
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devotional service, especially this sravanam, kirtanam
and arcanam,
arcanam, worshiping the Deity, and sravanam kirtanam.
Even if you
follow one, that is sufficient, but there are nine
different
processes. As far as possible, we shall execute
everything, and, at
least, sravanam kirtanam visnoh smaranam pada-sevanam,
arcanam. Arcana
is very important. For kanistha-adhikari, devotee in the
lower stage,
arcana is very, very important. Although the
devotee in the higher
stage, he also offers worship, but Krsna is everywhere.
For a neophyte
devotee Just like some people say that "Why you should
go to the
temple? Krsna is everywhere." Who was asking that
question? "Krsna
cannot be served..." Here, last night. I think those
girls, svarna(?)
girls. Krsna is everywhere, that is a fact, but that
is for the
paramhamsa, one who is very very advanced. For the
kanistha-adhikari,
he cannot He, like parrot, he can say, "Krsna is
everywhere." He must
be educated, "Here is Krsna in the temple." Otherwise it
is simply
blaspheme, that "Krsna is everywhere." That's a
fact, but where is
your realization? Krsna is within your heart. Have you
got that
realization? Isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese 'rjuna
tisthati. Have you
got that realization, that Krsna is within your heart?
Can you talk
with Krsna? He says, Krsna says, "I talk." Buddhi
yogam-dadami tam.
Krsna gives intelligence. Krsna is giving, but have you
got that
realization?
So
these are all facts, that Krsna is everywhere, Krsna is within
your heart, Krsna is within the atom.
Andantara
stha-paramanu-cayantara-tham. That's a fact, but where
is your
realization? Therefore you have to begin realization by
arcana. That
is very essential. Then more you become expert in arcana,
ye yatha mam
prapadyante, the more you become realized, then more you
become
advanced. So therefore, for kanistha-adhikari, he has to
raise
himself.
…
arcayam eva haraye
yah pujam sraddhayehate
na tad-bhaktesu canyesu
sa bhaktah prakrtah smrtah
By executing this arca-vigraha, arcanam, gradually you
advance. But if
you simply remain in the arcana-viddhi or arcana process,
and you
cannot understand who is a bhakta and what to do with
others... That
is also a bhakta's duty, not that simply we shall remain
engaged in
arcana. We must know how to respect devotee, how to do
some service to
others also. That is madhyama-adhikari. Simply if you
become
satisfied, that "Now I am initiated and I am offering
arcana. I have
become perfect," no, the perfection is still
awaiting. You have to
understand who is a devotee. You have to understand
how to give
service to the innocent. If you do not know that, then if
you simply
become packed up by arca-vigraha-seva, arcana, then you
will remain in
the material platform. Na tad-bhaktesu canyesu sa
bhaktah prakrtah
smrtah. Prakrtah means material. He is trying to go
to the spiritual
platform, but if he simply remains in
the arcana and does not preach,
this is na tad-bhaktesu canyesu. Anyesu. Anyesu
means those who are
innocent. That is madhyama-adhikari, middle
stage.
... So we should remain tad-adhina, always
under Krsna. That is our perfection. If we remain just
like in Western
countries--they rebel. If a woman is advised to remain
under the
control of the husband, that is insult to them. They
cannot tolerate
it. But actually we see in India that a wife who remains
under the
guidance of the husband, she is happy. That's a practical
fact. That
is a practical fact. And therefore in the Manu-samhita it
is advised,
na striyam svatantram arhati. Women should be always protected.
That
is... Protection does not mean negligence, no. Protection
means to
give him (her) all facilities. That is protection.
Just like father
gives protection to the chil... That does not mean
neglecting.
Similarly, a woman should be protected. It is not that
neglecting.
They misunderstand. In the Western countries maybe there
is
misbehavior, but actually we have seen, still going on in
India, the
woman is... That is the ideal given by Lord Ramacandra,
how woman is
given protection by the husband. Sitadevi was kidnapped.
Ramacandra is
the Supreme Lord. He could have married many thousands of
Sita, but as
the dutiful husband, to rescue one wife He killed the
whole family of
Ravana. This is protection. He killed the whole
family of him. He
became... This is. So woman requires protection, and
the husband is
responsible to give protection, the father is responsible
to give
protection, and the elderly children, they are resonsible
to give
protection.
751027SB.NAI
Lectures
Just like a
father is always anxious to see his
children are well protected, similarly, Krsna is also
always anxious
to give protection to His subordinates. But if the
subordinate
denounce Krsna, "I don't want Your protection," then
suffer your
karma. That you are doing. Those who are in the
material world, they
are suffering. Why? They have given up the protection of
Krsna. They
are thinking that "We can protect ourself. What is the
use of Krsna?"
So this is called dharmasya glanih. This is deviation
from the natural
way of life, when you give up the protection.
751027SB.NAI
Lectures
Brahmananda: His question... You stated that a statue
of yourself is
not the same as you, and yet in some of our
temples, such as
Vrndavana, the murti of Your Divine Grace has been
installed and they
are offering prasadam. So is it the same, that the
prasadam is
accepted by the guru?
Prabhupada: Yes. Saksad-dharitvena samasta-sastraih.
Guru is
nondifferent from Krsna. That is accepted by all the
sastra.
Saksad-dharitvena samasta sastraih. Saksad-dharitvena
samasta-sastrair
uktah: "It is said," tatha bhavyata eva sadbhih, "and
those who are
advanced devotees, they accept it like that." Kintu
prabhor yah priya
eva tasya: "But the guru's position is the most
confidential servant."
So guru is the servant God, and Krsna is the master God.
Both of them
are God, servant God and master God. Guru krsna krpaya
paya
bhakti-lata-bija. So we have to serve both the servant
and the master.
Through the servant, we go to the master. Any other
question? Chant
Hare Krsna.
751029SB.NAI
Lectures
For the hatha-yogis, they have to select place,
asana.
Dhyana, dharana, asana... Asana is also one of the
activities. But
here, in Vaisnava philosophy, you are seeing the Deity
always, at
least daily, so you have got some impression that "Our
temple Deity is
like this." That impression, either you are sitting in
one place
without any activities, sthitam vrajantam... While
walking on the
street also, you can think of this Deity. There is no
difficulty,
either you are sitting or you are walking or you are
standing, any
way. Because the mind is there in Krsna, in Krsna's form.
Therefore
Deity worship is so essential for the neophyte. He can
have always the
opportunity to think of the Supreme Lord by the
impression of the
Deity within the mind. Sayanam. Even in lying down, even
talking.
So
this is our process. This is the perfect process. You don't
require any artificial method to think of God. It is
natural. If you
simply come to the temple daily, chant in the front of
the Deity, Hare
Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare. Hare Rama,
Hare Rama, Rama
Rama, Hare Hare, then you become advanced
immediately.
….this process, this arcana process. If we... Everyone
alternately they
should learn how to worship. That will give the
impression of the Lord
within the heart, and then, either you are walking or you
are sitting
or you are lying or you are eating or you are talking,
you'll always
think of Krsna. This is the process. It will be
automatically done.
Sthitam vrajantam asinam sayanam va guhasayam.
Generally the yogis,
they try to find out the Visnu murti within the core
of the heart, but
this is as good. When you are walking on the street,
then, if you are
thinking, there will be no hindrance to your activities,
but you can
think of Krsna. Sa vai manah krsnah. Just like Maharaja
Ambarish. He
was emperor. He had many responsibilities, but he
practiced how to
think of Krsna always. Sa vai manah krsna-padaravindayor
vacamsi
vaikuntha-gunanuvarnane. You engage your senses.
So
this is practice. First of all think of the Deity. First of
all
think of the lotus feet, then the knees, then the
eyes, then the
belly, then the chest. In this way, as you become
practiced, then go
further, advance. In this way, when you become fully
practiced, then
automatically, in whatever condition you are, you will be
able to
meditate upon Krsna. That is the highest perfection of
life. Satatam
kirtayanto mam. Satatam cintayanto mam. If you always
think of Krsna,
…..you know. As soon as they see these Hare Krsna
movement people, they
also chant, "Hare Krsna," giving a chance to the others.
The dress is
also required. You should be always equipped with tilaka,
kunti, and
sikha, sutra. Then, as soon as a common man sees, "Oh,
here is a Hare
Krsna man. Hare Krsna," he'll chant. Automatically you
give a chance
to chant Hare Krsna.
So this is required. The foolish rascals, they say that "What is
the necessity of this, that?" No. This is necessity. You
must always
remain dressed like a Vaisnava. That is necessity.
So preksaniya: "is
very beautiful to see." Otherwise how they became
impressed?
Immediately they become so pious that they chant Hare
Krsna. The
chanting of Hare Krsna is not so easy. So many people
come here, but
when there is chanting, they do not chant because it is
not easy.
Yaj-jihvagre nama tubhyam. In the sastra it is said, aho
bata
sva-pacato 'pi gariyan yaj-jihvagre nama tubhyam. Anyone
who is
chanting Hare Krsna, jihvagre, with the tongue, even if
he is born in
a family of dog-eaters he is glorious. He is glorious.
Yaj-jihvagre
nama tubhyam. So we give this chance. As soon as he
chants Hare Krsna,
immediately he becomes glorious. Immediately become
glorious.
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no sun, then what is the value of this world? We have got
good
experience. In the Western countries where there is no
sun, it is
hell, simply hell, simply hell without sun. All the
condemned
countries are devoid of sunlight. This morning we were
speaking that
London, it is without sunlight practically throughout the
whole year.
Long ago, in 1969, in the television, the television man
asked me that
"Where is hell?" and "It is here in London." (laughter)
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That
is described in the sastra. Yasya prabha prabhavato
jagad-anda-koti. Krsna's body is bluish or blackish;
therefore you see
the sky bluish because the rays in the spiritual world is
effulgence,
bluish effulgence, and that is being reflected through
the sky. Yasya
prabha prabhavato jagad-anda-koti. His bodily light is
being reflected
in millions and trillions of universes. Yasya
prabha prabhavato
jagad-anda-koti. Jagad-anda. Jagad-anda means... Anda, it
is round.
….lokan punar avartino 'rjuna. Don't think that by going
to the heavenly
planet you'll be happy there. No. There is no
possibility. Either you
go to the heavenly planet or you go to the hell, you will
have to
undergo the threefold miserable conditions.
…..
751101SB.NAI
Lectures
Prabhupada: Tesam satata-yuktanam bhajatam
priti-purvakam. When Krsna
sees that "He is worshiping Me with faith and reverence
and love,"
then buddhi-yogam dadami tam. He'll give you
intelligence. He is
within you. Therefore I was saying, "First of all
become fit. First of
all deserve. Then desire." Why foolishly you desire
something for
which you do not deserve? That is your fault. That is
misuse. Don't
desire something without being deserving. So these
are the process
given how to think, how to meditate upon Krsna. So
practice it. Become
qualified. Then you'll see everything. Without being
qualified, why
you want to see? This devotional service means practicing
how to
become qualified. Sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam,
sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam
tat-paratvena nirmalam. You have to become fully
cleansed.
Tat-paratvena nirmalam. Sarva... What is that?
Anyabhilasita-sunyam.
We have to become completely zero about material
desires.
Anyabhilasita-sunyam. Then you become qualified. So long
you have got
any pinch of material desires, you are
disqualified.
690120SB.LA
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belongs to God. And we, we are, because we are His sons,
we have got
the right to use our father's property, but not
illegally. What is
allotted to us by our father we can accept, that's
all. One who
lives... That is stated in the Isopanisad, that kurvann
eveha karmani
jijivisec chatam samah. If you accept this principle,
then you can
live for hundreds of years without any sin. Otherwise you
become
complicated in the laws of material nature. And so
long we are
complicated, entangled by the laws of material nature,
then we shall
have to transmigrate from this one kind of body to
another kind of
body, and our material existence will be
prolonged.
690120SB.LA
Lectures
accustomed to this habit, but by my order they have
restrained. In the
beginning there is plot of land and a cow--your whole
economic
question is solved. Why you should work so hard day and
night? So we
have created a civilization simply working hard day and
night, and the
purpose is sense gratification. That's all. That is
prohibited. Make
your life simplified. Save your time for Krsna
consciousness. That is
the program. Don't be implicated with sinful activities.
Simple life.
Just like your father says, "My dear boy, you take your
food just in
time, and you do this work, and I'll be satisfied." If
you do that,
then father is satisfied. But if you take from the pocket
of your
father or from the cash box without his permission, then
you are
criminal.
So by
God's arrangement, everything is there. Everything.
Purnam
idam. Purnam idam purnam adah purnam idam purnat purnam
udacyate.
Everything is complete in this world. There is no
scarcity. We have
simply created scarcity by our mismanagement.
But if we take up the
laws as they are prescribed in the scriptures and live
peacefully,
there is no scarcity. My Guru Maharaja used to say that
in this world
there is no scarcity by the arrangement of God.
But the only scarcity
is this Krsna consciousness. People are not Krsna
conscious. They're
materially conscious. They're sensually conscious. That
has to be
changed.
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body..." Nayam deho deha-bhajam nrloke. Deha-bhajam means
there are
other living entities also. There are 8,400,000 different
forms of
living entities. Out of them, only 400,000 forms of
bodies are human
beings. Out of the 400,000 species of human beings,
mostly they are
uncivilized. And out of them, a very few men are
civilized. And out of
many civilized persons, a very few know what is Vedic
knowledge. And
out of many persons who know Vedic knowledge, they do
not act
according to the Vedic instructions. And those who
act, they are attached to
karma-kandiya-vicara, fruitive activities. Just like
perform yajnas
and be elevated to the heavenly planets. These are
called
karma-kandiya-vicara. Out of many thousands of these
persons who are
attached to karma-kandiya chapter of Vedas, one,
somebody may be
jnani. Jnani means "one who knows, one who is in
perfect knowledge."
Not perfect knowledge, but searching after knowledge,
jnani. And out
of many thousands of jnanis, one is mukta. Mukta means
liberated,
liberated from material body. And out of many
thousands of muktas,
there is very difficult to find out a devotee of
Krsna.
710830SB.LON
Lectures
… So actually, in the
Western
countries, these things are ordinary things, so they do
not take it as
any bad thing or any sinful, but according to Vedic
sastra, these four
principles are the basic principles or the four pillars
of sinful
life. Striya-suna-pana-dyuta yatra papas
catur-vidha.
So
the real purpose of life, as it is advised by Rsabhadeva: tapo
divyam. "My dear boys, just accept austerity and penances
for
transcendental realization," divyam. Divyam means the
platform where
God can be understood. Just like Krsna says in the
Bhagavad-gita,
janma karma me divyam yo janati tattvatah. If we can
understand God on
the transcendental platform, not in this material
platform by
imagination or speculation--that is not God. One has to
understand God
on the transcendental platform, suddha-sattva. Sattvam
visuddham
vasudeva-sabditam. On the vasudeva platform we can
understand
Vasudeva. Om namo bhagavate vasudevaya.
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any... Hrsikena hrsikesa-sevanam bhaktir ucyate. When you
come to that
purest form of spirit soul, you don't think that your
indriyas, or
senses, are lost. No. Senses are there. At that time,
if you enjoy
your senses in cooperation with the Supreme, that is
called bhakti, or
Krsna consciousness.
So it
is not very difficult to become free from all designations.
It is not very difficult. Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu has
given us very
simple method, supported by Vedic injunction. What is
that? Param
vijayate sri-krsna-sankirtanam…… So unless one will come to the
platform of self-realization, we are in the trouble, so long we are not
self-realized. Parabhavas tavad
abodha-jato yavan na jijnasata atma-tattvam. Without
self-realization,
whatever we are acting, we are piling up the stones and
woods and iron
in such skyscraper building. So we may do that,
but it is our defeat.
It is not conquering; it is defeat.
Parabhavas tavad abodha-jato yavan
na jijnasata atma-tattvam. If we don't inquire about
ourself, "What I
am? Why I am put into this miserable condition of life,
birth, death,
old age, and there are so many other things...?" Unless
you come to
question why, your human life is not perfect.
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So
when, after associating with the modes of goodness for
many,
many years--or not many, many years but many, many
lives--then one can
become very intelligent
brahmana.
bahunam janmanam ante
jnanavan mam prapadyate
vasudevah sarvam iti
sa mahatma sudurlabhah
After many, many births of this kind of contaminated
diseases and
births and body, when by culture of knowledge, by
austerities, by
penances, by brahminical culture, one becomes very, very
learned and
wise, at that time he can understand what is God--not
before that.
Bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan. Not the rascals and
the fools can
understand what is God. Only the
jnanavan.
So after becoming Brahman realized soul, when he is fully
liberated
from material contamination--goodness passion
or
ignorance--prasannatma, na socati na kanksati, he has no
material
hankering, neither he laments for any material loss.
Samah sarvesu
bhutesu, when he visions all living entities as spirit
soul,
mad-bhaktim labhate param, at that time he is eligible
to understand
what is bhakti. And bhaktya mam abhijanati yavan
yas casmi tattvatah.
If you become bhakta, if you have got the opportunity to
come to that
platform, then you can understand God. Otherwise, God
is not so easy
to understand. (break--questions and
answers)
751020SB.JOH
Lectures
that is unnatural. Because we are part and parcel of
God, we living
entities, we should be as happy as God is. That is our
position.
…. We are trying tobe happy fighting with
unhappiness, but we do not know our real
unhappiness are that we have to die, we have to take
birth again, we
have to become diseased and we have to accept old
age.
Janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi duhkha-dosanudarsanam. This is
intelligence,
that "I am trying to solve all the problems of life by
advancement of
civilization, education, scientific knowledge and so many
things.
That's all right. But what is the solution of my, these
four principle
of miserable condition: birth, death, old age and
disease?" And
because we cannot make any solution, we set aside
these four problems.
We go on with the temporary problems and become busy to
solve it, and
in this way we waste our, this valuable human form of
life like the
cats and dogs. This is the instruction.
…svabhava-jam. There must be sufficient milk in the human
society. If
you drink more milk and milk products, then your brain
will be very
sharp. You will understand things very nicely, corectly.
Therefore
milk is very important. In the Vedic sastra cow
protection is
recommended. Why? Because milk is very, very important
thing…
751128SB.DEL
Lectures
Prabhupada: No fate can be changed. I understand.
These questions are
generally put. Fate can be changed.
Guest (3): By name.
Prabhupada: By Krsna consciousness. Karmani nirdahati
kintu ca
bhakti-bhajam. Others cannot change their fate, but only
the devotees
can change. How? Krsna says, aham tvam sarva-papebhyo
moksayisyami.
Krsna says, "I shall give you protection from all the
resultant action
of your sinful life." That is fate changed. If you
don't surrender to
Krsna, then you have to suffer or enjoy the actions of
your fruitive
activities. But when you surrender to Krsna, He takes
charge of
squaring up all your sinful activities and their
reaction. That is...
So you surrender to Krsna; then your fate is changed.
Otherwise it is
not possible.
761023SB.VRN
Lectures
Simply by... Caitanya Mahaprabhu has recommended not
whimsically. This is the prescription of this age:kirtanad eva krsnasya
mukta-sangah param vrajet. If you perfectly
chant this Hare Krsna mantra, kirtanad eva krsnasya--not
any other
name but Krsna--mukta-sangah: you can become free from
this material
association, or the contamination due to material
contact. That is the
special advantage of this
age
761023SB.VRN
Lectures
So
Caitanya Mahaprabhu, maha-vadanyavatara, He is patita-pavana.
He
is the deliverer of all the fallen souls. He has given us
this much
tapasya prescription. Tapasya must be there. And
that is very easy to
be done by us. It is not very difficult. One has to
become very
humble. That is the first qualification. Trnad api
sunicena. Sunicena
means lower than the grass. Just like we trample over the
grass; they
do not protest. Trnad api sunicena taror api sahisnuna.
And tolerant,
humbler than the grass and tolerant than the tree.
A tree gives us all
benefit, but in return we give the tree so much trouble.
We snatch
away the twigs, we snatch away the leaves. Sometimes
for our fuel we
cut down. But there is no protest. So these things
have been taught by
Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Trnad api sunicena taror api
sahisnuna amanina
manadena. Nobody should think himself that he is very
prestigious
person, falsely. Nobody is prestigious. Everyone should
be humble. So
these three, four things we should learn, and that is
tapasya. And we
should avoid the sinful activities, namely, no illicit
sex, no
meat-eating, no gambling, no intoxication. These are some
of the
positive and negative formulas given by Caitanya
Mahaprabhu. And if we
follow this tapasya and chant Hare Krsna, then our life
is successful.
…should be very careful not to become like cats and dogs
but to become
very humble--humbler than the grass and tolerant than the
tree.
Amanina. Everyone wants that "I am very honorable man,
prestigious
man. And you should respect me." That is our material
disease. "I do
not want to respect you, but you should offer me
respect." This is the
position. Therefore our system is to call another
Vaisnava as prabhu.
"Sir, you are prabhu, you are master." But we call
prabhu, but I
think, "No, you are not prabhu; I am prabhu. You are
servant." This
cheating process will not help us. Actually, we should
believe that he
is prabhu. "He is servant of Krsna; therefore he is my
prabhu." This
is Vaisnava mentality. Gopi-bhartur
pada-kamalayor
dasa-dasa-dasa-dasanudasa. One who wants to become
servant of the
servant of the servant of the servant, he is actually
prabhu. If
falsely one thinks that "I am prabhu," then his life
is spoiled. So
this word we use amongst ourself, prabhu, means that "I
am your
servant, you are my master." But that should be
practically exhibited.
That is called tapasya, to learn all these
things.
Without tapasya, we cannot get out of this conditioned state.
That
is not possible. Those who are thinking that "Let us do
whatever
nonsense I can do, and at the same time I become free
from this
material condition..." No. That is not possible. One
has to undergo
tapasya.
761225SB.BOM
Lectures
Now
in the bodily conception of life we are so much contaminated
that our existence is now polluted. Actually it is
polluted, because
Krsna says, na jayate na mriyate va kadacin na hanyate
hanyamane
sarire. This is our position. Our position is we never
take birth. We
are not subjected to take birth because we are part and
parcel of God,
spirit soul. And na jayate na mriyate va: we do not die.
How we are
seeing... Every day we are dying. My father die, my
brother die, my
neighbor die. How is that? Na hanyate hanyamane sarire.
This is our
position. We do not die, even the body is destroyed. So
where is that
knowledge throughout the whole world? There is no such...
There is no
university, no school, no college to impart this
knowledge, ….
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So
the cause is godlessness. If we become godless, the prakrti
will
restrict supply--so much so there will be anavrsti. How
can control?
Because you may be very great scientist, you may deny the
existence of
God, but when there is anavrsti you are looking up in the
sky, "When
there will be cloud? When there will be rain?" Then
taking this plea,
our government will tax for relief fund. That is
all mentioned in
Srimad-Bhagavatam. Anavrsti karo-pidita. People will be
so much
harassed. And acchina-dara-dravina giri-kananam. They
will be so much
harassed by these three principles--no rainfall, scarcity
of grains,
and taxed heavily by the government... They will
be so much harassed
that acchinna-dara-dravina giri-kananam, they will be
forced to leave
home, that "Now it is hopeless. I cannot manage. Let me
go to the
forest."
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Now when the man visited the prostitute's house, she received
the
man. In India it is system that when you receive a
gentleman or lady
you must give him sumptuously to eat. So there was many
palatable
dishes served to the man, and each vegetable and each
preparation was
put in two pots--one in iron pots and one in golden pots.
So he was
eating. Now this man asked the prostitute, "Well, you
have given me
the same preparation in two pots: one in gold pot and one
in iron pot.
Why? What is the idea?" So she said that "First of all
taste it. Then
I shall disclose what is the idea." So he was
tasting, eating. Then
the prostitute asked him, "How do you like?" "Oh, it is
very nice."
"Then, is there any different taste in the golden
pot?" "No. Same
taste." "And the iron pot?" "Oh, the same taste." So she
replied at
that time that "You are so rascal that you want to
gratify your
senses, but you do not know that sense gratification in
poor wife or
rich wife is the same. There is no difference of taste,
so why you are
after a woman by paying this one hundred thousands of
jewels?" The
idea is... This story is very instructive, and it is
mentioned in the
Srimad-Bhagavatam. The idea is the same thing... (break)
...sense
gratification is the ultimate aim of life, then why so
much hard
trouble for decorating the process of sense
gratification? Why wasting
so much time for
decorating?
So
Rsabhadeva is asking that sense gratification there is
necessity, because we have got senses. But not with
too much trouble,
accepting too much trouble in the name of economic
development.
Because our time is very valuable. If we want to
utilize our short
duration of life which we have got at our disposal, we
must utilize it
for self-realization, not for unnecessarily increasing
the necessities
of bodily wants. This is not a good type of
civilization, simply
wasting time for sense gratification. Time should be
utilized for
greater advantage.
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The instruction is still standing, Krsna
said, sarva-dharman parityajya, "Just simply surrender
unto Me." But
nobody is doing that. God says that, "You surrender unto
Me; I shall
give you all protection." There is assurance. But we are
so
unfortunate that we cannot believe or cannot be assured
on the words
of God also. We do not believe. "Oh, God cannot give us
protection.
Let me try my own technology. I shall protect
myself." This is the
world(?). That means he's not detached with these
material activities.
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their food. Everyone is working hard; they also come. So
animals also,
they (are) also working very hard. That is given example,
the hogs and
dogs. That is restricted. If you go on working for
better standard of
life, then you'll be attached to this work and your mind
will be
absorbed in such work. And if the mind continues to be
absorbed in
working so hard, then after giving up this body, you'll
have to accept
another body to fulfill such desires within the
mind. Krsna will give
you full facility.
Rsabhadeva says that simply for sense gratification, don't work
so
much. Actually, we haven't got to work. Everything is
there. We have
repeatedly discussed. Just like in the morning the
birds get up, they
do not work very hard. They know that "We shall go in
some, upon some
tree, and there is food, there is some fruit, and we
shall eat." There
is no, no good prob..., very great problem. The
animals also, they are
assured, everyone is assured. And even human
being, just like
sannyasis, they are also assured. Just like when I came
to your
country, there was no friend, there was no relative, but
assurance was
there that "I am going for Krsna's business. So there
is some
provision, never mind where it is." That much faith we
must have.
Actually, for even one is not Krsna conscious, one is not
devotee of
Krsna, he has also provision. That provision is there.
Why should we
work so hard? Our business is to save time how to become
advanced in
Krsna consciousness. But people cannot understand
this.
Now, how to become detached from this habit of hard working,
that
is suggested here. It is said, mahat-sevam dvaram ahur
vimuktes.
Mahat-seva, saintly persons, if you associate with them,
if you serve
them, try to serve them, that practice is still in
India.
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this custom is prevalent in India, as soon as somebody
sees a sannyasi
has come in a temple, somebody from the village, not
somebody, but
many will come, "Sir, you can take your lunch at my
place." So there
is no scarcity. Many people will come to invite you
still. Therefore
many pseudo or phony swamis, they have taken this
profession because
there is no difficulty getting food. So, mahat-seva.
The... What is
the idea? The idea is the grhasthas, they know that
"We are simply
engaged in the matter of sense gratification. If we
invite some
saintly person at home, if he eats at my place, then, we
commit so
many sinful activities, we'll be saved." This is the
process.
Therefore, a sannyasi is advised to accept prasadam in
the house of a
brahmana, because a brahmana is supposed to be, become
very pious. If
you take foodstuff from impious men, then that means you
are taking
share of his impious activities. But a saintly
person, they can
digest, but if (they) cannot digest, then you have to
suffer. This is
the process. Then he has to suffer. Therefore the
safety principle is
to accept luncheon in a pious family, where there is
Vaisnava family
or brahmana family. Not that anywhere we can accept
cooked food.
Sometimes we have to do it, but that is against
principle. We should
not accept food anywhere and everywhere, unless he is
pious.
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What
is that sound? Nayam deho deha-bhajam nrloke kastan kaman
arhate vid-bhujam ye. This daytime, or nighttime, we
work so hard, but
what is the aim. Aim is to satisfy senses. Ask
these people all over
the world, especially in the western country. They are
making so many
plans. Yesterday, when we were coming by the plane,
the whole two
hours one man was working, making some calculation. So
everybody is
busy, very, very busy, but if you ask him, "Why you are
working so
hard? What is the aim?" The aim, he has nothing to say
except sense
gratification, that's all. He has no more aim. He
may think that "I
have got a big family, I have to maintain them," or "I
have got so
much responsibility." But what is that? That is simply
sense
gratification. Even we manufacture so many "isms",
philanthropism,
humanitarianism, nationalism, socialism, so many. But
what are these
"isms"? That is also sense gratification. I satisfy my
senses. I want
to see that the senses of my brothers, senses of my
sisters, senses of
my friends, or senses of my society people, or my nation,
countrymen,
they are satisfied. The business is sense
gratification. Just like in
our country we got Mahatma Gandhi. So he started, he is
supposed to be
father of the nation. There are many leaders in different
countries.
But if we, I mean to, take account of their business, it
is sense
gratification, that's all. Extended sense
gratification. These are
just like Marx, what is his name, full
name?
Devotee: Karl Marx.
Prabhupada: Karl Marx. He is thinking how the laborer,
the worker,
their senses will be gratified. That is his
philosophy. Is it not?
Devotee: Yes.
Prabhupada: He's thinking that the capitalist, they are
satisfying
only their senses in luxuriously, why not the laborers
who are
actually working. That is his philosophy. The central
point is sense
gratification. Just try to understand. The whole world is
busy in
different labels, but the central point is sense
gratification. That's
all. Is anybody has anything to say against this, here
present? But
here Rsabhadeva says nrloke kastan kaman arhate, na
arhate. Na ayam
deho deha-bhajam nrloke kastan kaman arhate vid-bhujam
ye. Such kind
of hard work, it is done by the dogs and hogs also. So
does it mean
that we shall have to work, we have got this human form
of body, and
we have to work just like dogs and hogs. Actually they're
doing so.
Nothing more than that. The dogs and hogs, they're
busy all day and
night for the same thing: how to eat, how to sleep, how
to have sex
life, how to defend. The man is also working in the same
way, under
different label only. Nationalism, socialism, this "ism"
that "ism",
but the action of the dog and hog and the human society,
so-called
civilized, the point is the same. So Rsabhadeva
says that the dogs and
hogs they are working so hard for sense gratification,
but this human
form of body is not meant for that. It is for different
path.
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They
are so callous, just like animal. They cannot think that there
is possibility of not being slaughtered. When they are
taken in the
slaughter house, they agree to go because they know there
is no other
way. We have been made, meant for being
slaughtered. Actually that is
the position. The poor animals, they have no power to
protest, neither
combinedly they can give you fighting, to the human
being. You will
see one hundred cows are being driven by one boy or
one man. They are
so helpless. If they combine, with their horns they
can immediately
kill that man, but they have no intelligence. They do not
know how to
fight. Sometimes they fight, but this is position
of the rascals and
fools. Take the example, one cow or one bull is quite
strong enough to
kill ten men. He has got so much strength. But because he
has no
intelligence, because he is animal, hundreds of cows and
bulls are
being driven by one man to the
slaughterhouse.
So
the, this intelligence, that is difference between the animal
and the man. If one hundred men was being taken away
like that,
immediately the man who was taking to kill them,
immediate, why one
hundred, ten men would have been sufficient, or two men
would have
been sufficiently stronger. They would not tolerate.
Similarly we are
also being driven by the laws of nature to accept
these
inconveniences, repetition of birth, death, old age,
and disease.
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We have seen, that is, nature has got example,
everything, you can study. You'll find in
Srimad-Bhagavatam that by
studying nature you can get so many instruction,
perfect. So one
devotee made the nature his spiritual master, and
studying nature and
getting so much information. So if you study like
that, here as it is
given, the example, vid-bhujam ye. So vid-bhujam means
the pigs or the
hog. They are also eating nicely, getting fat, and having
sex
intercourse very freely, so does it mean that human being
is also
meant for this business, like the hogs and dogs. This is
the point.
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gratification, and produce more product for sense
enjoyment. This is
modern civilization. All these factories... I
understand that in this
country the farmers are taxed so heavily that they are
forced to work
in the factory. This is a policy of the government
leaders to engage
people. If anyone wants to live peacefully, save
time for developing
Krsna consciousness, then the leaders of the society or
the government
will not allow him to do so. This is the
position.
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But
so far we can see, those who are busy with bolts and nuts, how
this dull brain, they can manufacture such things? That
is not
possible. Actually, human life is meant for that purpose
to understand
God and His potencies and to revive our old (own)
relationship with
Him. That is the main business. But unfortunately, they
are being
engaged in factories, in other work, to work like hogs
and dogs, and
their whole energy is being spoiled. Not only spoiled,
but their
characters, they are working so hard, so after working
so hard they
must drink intoxication. Then after drinking, they must
eat meat.
After this combination, they require sex. So in this way,
they're kept
in the darkness. And here, these verses of
Rsabhadeva, he says
warning. He's warning, He's speaking to his sons, but we
can take the
lesson. That he says: nayam deho deha-bhajam nrloke
kastan kaman
arhate vid-bhujam ye. Kaman means the necessities of
life. You can get
your necessities of life very easily. By tilling the
field, you get
grains. And if there is cow, you get milk. That's all.
That is
sufficient. But the leaders are making plan, that if they
are
satisfied with their farming work, little grains and
milk, then who
will work in the factory? Therefore they are taxing so
that you cannot
live even simple life--this is the position--even if you
desire.
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And a Krsna
conscious person, he's also sleeping. But there are different grades. The Krsna
conscious person is sleeping, chanting Hare Krsna. This can be done. If
you
practice this Hare Krsna, even in sleeping you'll chant
Hare Krsna.
Everything depends on practice.
Abhyasa-yoga-yuktena cetasa
nanya-gamina. Everything we acquire by spiritual
practice.
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The
qualification of this material world are two. So long you
live,
it is always full of miseries. And if you try to make
compromise--"All
right, I shall live here. Never mind it is
miserable"--that is also
temporary. You cannot live also. You cannot...
Suppose you think that
"All right, I have got this American body, American
country. Never
mind there are some sufferings due to this body. I
shall live here."
Oh, you cannot live. You cannot. You'll not be allowed to
live also.
How long? Therefore the qualifications of this
material world are two.
It is full of misery and it is temporary.
But our demand is full of
pleasure and eternal life. Just opposite.
But the foolish persons,
they do not understand. They think, "Oh, we are very much
happy." Oh.
How we are happy? Supposing you are feeling happy. How
long you'll be
happy? Any moment you'll have to give up this place. Take
example,
your President Kennedy. He approached to the most
happiest position,
president, young man, good wife, children. Within a
second, everything
finished. Within a second. He was going on car
very nicely, protected,
thinking protection, but just in a moment--finished. So
that
possibility is for everyone. Even the President of
America, Mr.
Kennedy, he could not save himself, in spite of so much
power and
opulence. And what of us? We have to think, you see, very
with cool
head that every arrangement here in this world, however
nice you may
think, however you may be free, they are all temporary,
all temporary,
backed up by full of misery. Unless one is not
conversant with this
principle of life, he cannot actually seriously take up
what is Krsna
consciousness.
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have no other information. They are simply engaged in
sense
gratification: eating, sleeping, mating, and defending.
That's all.
Their business finished. They do not know anything else.
If I call
some animals... Why people are not taking part in this
Krsna
consciousness? Because they are animals. They are
appearing with four
hands and legs, but they have been trained to become
animals. So they
cannot take. But we are trying to train them from
animalism to
humanism by associating with this Krsna consciousness
movement. This
Caitanya Mahaprabhu's movement is to give chance to this
animalistic
civilization to associate with devotees and mahatmas so
that they can
also become devotee and mahatma. You associate with
mahatma, you
become mahatma. You associate with debauch, you become
debauch.
Practical. We have taken from the debauchery condition
all our
disciples. But they are now mahatmas. It is
possible. By this Krsna
consciousness movement we can turn debauch into mahatma.
That is
possible. Caitanya Mahaprabhu's movement is so
nice.
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Then
what is their dealing? Yavad-arthas ca loke. They deal as much
as required only. That's all. I have to deal with some
gentleman who
is completely out of our, this Krsna consciousness
movement, but I
have to deal with him. Then how I have to deal? As much
as possible to
avoid him, but so far the business is concerned, all
right. This is
all. Just like a businessman talks with another
businessman so far
profit is concerned. That's all. No more talk. A
businessman, a
lawyer, talks with his client so much... Especially in
America, they
cannot waste their time. Any businessman will not waste
their time.
They will talk. Similarly, a householder devotee whose
only business
is to satisfy Krsna, they will deal with other persons...
Other person
means those who are simply interested for maintaining
this body, wife,
children, in this way. They have no other ideas. We
should not have
any very intimate relationship, but we shall have to deal
with them
only as far necessary. No more. That's all. We shall try
to avoid them
as far as possible. But because we are living with the
human society
we have to deal with such persons. So our dealings should
be so far as
required. Not more than that. Then, if one lives a
householder life in
this way, keeping his viewpoint only in Krsna, in the
lotus feet of
Krsna, and other dealings superfluous, he is also
mahatma. He's also
mahatma. Na priti-yukta yavad-arthas ca loke. Mayi
ise
krta-sauhrdarthah purusartha yesam.
A householder mahatma has only one aim: how to attain the
perfectional stage of love of God. That is the
aim.
…Society, friendship and love, these things are required.
But a mahatma
householder, he is seeking actual friendship with Krsna.
Ise
sauhrdarthah. Because he knows, "If Krsna is my
friend..." Just like
Arjuna sought friendship with Krsna; Duryodhana sought
friendship with
Krsna's power. Krsna divided Himself. Because it
was a family warfare
between two cousin brothers, and Krsna was also related
with both of
them by family relationship, so He said, "How can I take
part with one
and not with the other? Then that will be partiality. So
anyway, I
divide Myself into two. I am alone, one side, and in
which side I
shall go, I shall not fight. I shall not touch even a
weapon. And the
other side, all My soldiers." Krsna had many soldiers.
So Duryodhana
thought that "I shall take Krsna's soldiers," and Arjuna
thought, "I
shall take Krsna only, even He does not
fight."
So
this is the determination of mahatmas, that they want
simply
Krsna's friendship. Mayi
sauhrdarthah.
ye va mayise krta-sauhrdartha
janesu dehambhara-vartikesu
grhesu jayatmaja-ratimatsu
na priti-yukta yavad-arthas ca loke
Yavad-arthas ca loke, just to deal with other persons as
much as
necessary, not more than that. But to keep friendship
with devotees,
that is necessary. Not that I shall not intimately mix,
intermingle
with the devotees. That is required. A devotee has got
four business:
isvare priti, love for God, Krsna; friendship with
devotees; and
kindness to the neophyte; and rejection to the
nondevotees. These four
principles. A devotee's only lovable object is Krsna. His
only friend
is devotee, another
devotee.
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If one person can understand this Krsna
consciousness
science, in future there is hope that he can make many
other persons
to this knowledge of Krsna consciousness. Although it is
very
difficult. In Bhagavad-gita it is said, manusyanam
sahasresu. But if
you can deliver even one man in your life, then you'll be
doing a
great service for Krsna. It is not required that
you have to deliver
hundreds and hundreds of men, so-called. No. If you
can train only one
man, that's a great service to Krsna. You saved one man
from the
clutches of maya. It is so nice thing. So do it
peacefully, and as far
as possible. People may accept or not accept, but we
shall do our
duty. That's all.
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eight..., at least two. That is the process. And so far
mixing with
other people, that I have already explained just now,
that to talk
with a person is not mixing. You see? Mixing means,
intimate mixing,
there are six symptoms. When you eat, when
you call him to eat, when
you give, when you take, when you talk your heart,
when you hear his
heart. These are called intimate mixing. Otherwise,
simply talking or
dealing, that is not mixing. That is not mixing. So you
can mix with
ordinary people in that way. As far as your business is
concerned, as
it is necessary, but not intimately. And do your own
business,
chanting, and following the rules and regulations. That's
all. It is
simple thing. Just like doctors. They also mix with
infected persons,
but they do not become infected. You see. So
preaching is like that.
Unless you preach among the fallen souls, then where is
the question
of preaching? So you should not become fallen. (laughs)
You should
deliver the fallen. That should be your strength. But if
you are less
powerful, then you will become fallen.
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So
long we are in this material platform, bodily concept of life,
then there will be distinction: "I am Indian," "You are
American,"
"You are Englishman," "You are this," "...that," so many
things, so
many designations. Therefore, if you want to rise up
to the platform
of spiritual realization, then the formula is
sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam.
Sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam tat-paratvena nirmalam. That is
the beginning.
That means beginning is the brahma-bhuta platform.
Brahma-bhuta...
Same thing. It is, Narada-pancaratra,
sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam, and
brahma-bhutah prasannatma, Bhagavad-gita, the same thing.
Wherever you
find the Vedic literature, the same thing. Therefore it
is authority.
There is no contradiction. In the material platform
you write one
book, I write one book, then I disagree with you, and you
disagree
with me. That is material platform. But in the spiritual
platform,
there is self-realized platform. There is no mistake,
there is no
illusion, there is no imperfect senses and there is no
cheating. That
is spiritual platform. So the Bhagavad-gita says,
brahma-bhutah
prasannatma na socati na kanksati. …
…but He is supreme and we are subordinate. That is the
difference. Eko
yo bahunam vidadhati kaman. This is our position. This
is
self-realization. When you understand this, that
"Krsna, or the
Supreme Lord, or God, whatever you say, He's the whole
spirit soul,
and we are fragmental portion of that spirit soul, and
He's the
maintainer; we are maintained. He is the predominator; we
are
predominated," So this is first realization. This
is called
brahma-bhuta. And if you make more advance in
brahma-bhuta stage, then
maybe after many births you can understand what is
Krsna. That is the,
ver... Bahunam janmanam ante. Krsna says in the
Bhagavad-gita, bahunam
janmanam ante jnanavan mam prapadyate. When one is
perfectly jnanavan,
wise, then his business is vasudevah sarvam iti sa
mahatma
sudurlabhah. Then he can understand that Vasudeva, the
son of
Vasudeva, Krsna, is everything. That realization
required. That is the
perfection of Krsna
consciousness.
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Acyutananda: So what made the soul take birth in the
first place?
Prabhupada: In the first place?
Acyutananda: What is the first birth? What is the
cause of the first
birth.
Prabhupada: Yes. That is stated in the
Prema-vivarta:
krsna-bahirmukha hana bhoga vancha kare
nikata-stha maya tare japatiya dhare
As soon as... We are eternal servant of Krsna. As soon
as we want to
become master, that is the beginning of our first birth
in the
material world. We have got independence. Because,
Krsna says,
mamaivamso jiva bhutah--we are part and parcel of
Krsna--so Krsna has
got full independence, but we are minute; therefore we
have got minute
independence. Our business is to serve Krsna, but as
soon as we give
up this idea, we want to become master. That is the
beginning of our
material birth.
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give you production enough for your satisfaction. Now
I've seen in
your country so much land is lying vacant. Why it is not
being
produced? Because you do not know how to derive all
benefits from
earth. That you do not know. Therefore people are in
scarcity. There
is no question of scarcity. Krsna has given everything.
Purnam idam
purnam adah purnat purnam... There cannot be anything
imperfect which
is created by God. Everything is perfect. But if we
become godless,
the supply will be crippled. That is the secret we do not
know. These
things we have to learn from sastra. As soon as people
will become
demonic, nature will restrict supply. "Now you become
demonic. That's
all right."
So
this is going on. Therefore it is recommended mahat-sevam
dvaram
ahur vimuktes, if you want to become free from all
anxieties. First of
all this material world means anxiety. We are put... We
are part and
parcel of Krsna. Why we are sent to this material
world? Iccha-dvesa
sammutthena, sarge yanti parantapa, because we wanted to
enjoy life
independent of God, or Krsna. This is the disease.
We are not
independent. If there is no rain and there is no food
grain, what your
independence will do? No. Therefore Krsna says in the
Bhagavad-gita,
annad bhavanti bhutani, very practical. That if you want
to be happy,
either animal or man, bhutani, then you produce anna,
food grains
sumptuously. Annad bhavanti bhutani parjanyad
anna-sambhavah. And
there must be sufficient rain for producing sufficient
food grains.
Yajnad bhavanti parjanyah, and you perform yajna, there
will be
regular rainfall. Yajnah-karma samudbhavam. Who is
following this
principle? Yajnah-karma samudbhavam. Krsna never says
that factories,
by factories bhavanti bhutani. Annad bhavanti bhutani, He
says this is
practical. We are not interested how to produce anna. We
are now
interested how to produce tire tubes. So eat tire
tube.
So
this is going on. Take Krsna's instruction as it is. You'll
be
happy. This is Krsna consciousness movement. It is not a
bogus thing,
it is very scientific, authorized. Take it very
seriously, especially
those who are born Indians. They've got the advantage.
Don't be
misled. Thank you very much. So any
questions?
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So
this baivik-yajna (?) is permitted in the..., prohibited in
this
Kali-yuga because they are not properly performed. It is
not possible.
Just like our Sriman Pittieji was searching after a
brahmana to recite
the Ramayana, Sundarakanda. He's not getting a proper
brahmana. That
is the difficulty. How you can perform yajna? There is
no yajnic
brahmana at the present moment. Therefore the
yajna to be performed at
this moment in this Kali-yuga is yajnaih
sankirtana-prayaih yajanti hi
su-medhasah. Su-medhasah means with good brain substance.
Those who
have no brain substance, they are called alpa-medhasah.
That is also
stated in the Bhagavad-gita, tad bhavati alpa-medhasah.
Alpa-medhasah
means there is no brain substance--filled up with cow
dung. So one
should be su-medhasah. Su-medhasah, nice brain substance.
So those who
are su-medhasah means with good brain substance, they
perform yajnair
sankirtanair by sankirtana yajna, Hare Krsna. Just see
the effect of
Hare Krsna mantra. This yajna being performed all over
the world. How
quickly they are capturing Krsna consciousness. Just see
the effect
practically. Therefore those who are intelligent, having
good brain
substance, they should perform yajna sankirtana,
yajnaih..., and
worship Lord Caitanya.
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This is the... The six Gosvamis of Vrndavana, they lived
in Vrndavana
by the order... The present Vrndavana, holy place, was
made by Rupa
Gosvami and Sanatana Gosvami. These two brothers, they
were ministers
in the government of Nawab Hussain Shah. Practically they
became
Muhammadans; their name were changed. Because in those
days the
brahmana community was very strict. Any brahmana
accepting service,
he'll be immediately excommunicated: "No, you are not
brahmana."
Brahmana's business is not to serve others. Brahma-karma
svabhava-jam.
They should remain... Everyone was independent. Brahmana
independent,
ksatriya independent, vaisya independent. Simply sudra's
dependent
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brahmacari. There are many saintly persons, they are
akhanda
brahmacari, or avala (?) brahmacari. They avoid. It is
not only for
men; it is meant for woman also, because here we are
dressed like men
and women. Otherwise the mentality is manly, to enjoy,
purusa. Purusa
means who wants to enjoy, and yosit means enjoy. So our
relationship
in this material world, that either in the dress of woman
or man, the
mentality is purusa, how to enjoy. The mentality
is purusa.
So
when we give up this mentality, enjoyer... Because we are not
actually enjoyer. Enjoyer is Krsna.
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Acyutananda: (reading question) In the Vedas the
maha-mantra is
repeated Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. Hare
Krsna, Hare
Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare. What is the
significance of changing
the order?
Prabhupada: There is no change of order. If you like you
can begin
with Hare Rama. There is no
harm.
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Prabhupada: Siva is dahi and Krsna is milk. Dahi, the
preparation of
dahi that you take milk, pure milk, and mix it with
little sour thing,
then it becomes dahi. Similarly, Krsna is pure spirit,
and when this
pure spirit is mixed up with maya, that is Siva.
Lord Siva is the
maya-adipati. There are many narrations. This was once
inquired by
Yudhisthira Maharaja that Lord Siva, he appears to be
like a beggar.
He does not possess even a house. He lives underneath a
tree. And the
devotee of Siva becomes very rich, opulent materially,
although he's a
beggar, whereas Visnu is laksmi-pati, vaikuntha-pati, and
the
Vaisnavas become beggar. Just opposite. By worshiping
the beggar one
becomes rich, and by worshiping the rich one becomes
beggar. What is
this contradiction? So this is answered by Krsna,
yasyaham anugrhnami
harisye tad-dhanam sanaih, "My first benediction to my
devotee is that
I take away all his riches. That's all. Then when he
becomes helpless,
he becomes firmly convinced and he has no other
shelter." Then
automatically he takes shelter of Krsna, what Krsna
demands,
sarva-dharman parityajya mam. When he has no other
help, he fully
surrenders to Krsna. That is Krsna's special
mercy. And so far Lord
Siva is concerned, he is the husband of mother Durga, and
Durga is the
supreme material power, srsti-sthiti-pralaya
sadhana-saktir eka
chayeva yasya bhuvanani vibharti durga. So he gets all
material
benediction, and Vaisnava, instead of material
benediction, he gets
all spiritual benediction. That is the
difference.
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So
this material energy is... Every energy is woman. The
spiritual
energy is also woman, material energy is woman.
The material energy is
tamo, darkness, and the other energy is the light.
Therefore Vedic
injunction is tamasi ma jyotir gamah. Don't remain under
the darkness
material energy. In the Candi, those who have read
Candi, ya devi
sarva-bhutanam nidra-rupena samasthitah. The material
energy's
business is to keep us in slumber without any pure
knowledge. This is
material energy. So if we keep ourself within the
material energy,
that will lead us more and more in the darkest region of
hellish
condition of life. Tamo-dvaram yositam sangi-sangam.
Those who are too
much materially affected, to associate with such person
means you
remain within the material energy. And if you associate
with persons
who are great souls, who have taken the shelter of
spiritual energy,
your path of liberation will be open. This is the
purport. Mahat-sevam
dvaram ahur vimuktes tamo-dvaram yositam sangi-sangam
mahantas te
sama-cittah.
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thinking, "I am this Indian," "I am American," "I am
this," "I am
that." But what mahatma thinking? He's thinking, "I am
servant of
Krsna. I am not servant of these petty things. I am
servant of Krsna,
Parabrahman." Gopi-bhartur pada-kamalayor
dasa-dasanudasa. That is
mahat. "I am a servant of Krsna's servant, servant,
servants, hundred
times servant." The lower my position is servant, then
I am great
mahatma. Ordinarly they think mahatma, that "I am on the
top, on the
topmost platform." That is not maha
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