Hare Krsna to all
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
Its been a while, but here is the last part of SB classes Vol 7 summarized
Some points of interest...
1.the senses belong to Krsna but everyone uses them for his own purposes
2.chant Omkara go to bramajyoti, chant Hare Krsna go to spiritual world
3.our miserable conditions caused by our thinking I am the enjoyer, proprietor
4.when you see a flower, that is Krsna smiling
5.why do people drive so many hours to work-sex desire
6.woman has 3 stages in life, a man has got 10 stages
7.when we chant and dance Hare Krsna, we forget we are these bodies
8.out of thousands of muktas, its difficult to find one Krsna bhakta
9.how to become detached from all this hard working? Sadhu sanga
10. and much more....
So the Aniruddha, He is the master of the senses, as it is stated
here, hrsikanam adhisvaram, adhisvaram, master, proprietor. So the
common sense is that if my hand is the property of Krsna, why it
should be used for me? It should be used for Krsna. This is good
sense. Suppose something belongs to somebody else. If you use it for
your purpose, that is illegal, not lawful. This is my watch. If you
take away this watch and use for your purpose, then it is criminal.
You cannot say the watch is being used either by him or by... It is
being used, that's all. No. You cannot use it. You can use it only by
the permission of the proprietor. Without permission of the
proprietor, if you use it, then you are criminal or you are sinful.
Similarly, we have got all the senses. The senses are meant for
working. The eyes are meant for seeing, the ears are meant for
hearing, the nose is meant for smelling, the hand is meant for
touching, the leg is meant for going, the stomach is meant for
eating--so many, we have got, different senses. They are meant for
different purpose. But if the purpose is for your sense gratification,
then you are criminal because you are not proprietor. This is to
understand bhakti. If you do not use all the senses for Krsna's
purpose, then it is criminal. That is called papa.
So you are doing that. Every one of us, who is doing for Krsna?
Nobody is doing for Krsna. Everyone is doing for his own purpose. He
is taking one flower. The devotee is bringing the flower: "Oh, very
nice flower. Let me take it to the temple and offer it to Krsna." That
is devotion. The same flower, "Oh, it is very nice flower. Oh, let me
pin it on my bunch of hair." That is papa. The same thing. You must
know how to utilize it. That is called bhakti. Everything can be
utilized. Nirbandhah krsna-sambandhe yuktam vairagyam ucyate. That art
we have to learn. Anasaktasya visayan. Visayan means objectives for
sense gratification, visayan. Ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithunam ca. These
are called visaya--eating, sleeping, mating, and defending. Visaya.
So we are visaya. Everyone are. We are eating. Everyone is eating.
Who can say, "I am not eating"? So visaya. So our business should be
not to be attached for eating. Then shall I starve and die? No, you
eat Krsna prasadam. Eating is not stopped. Eating is not stopped.
Eating means as you are cooking for yourself at home, the same
cooking, do it for Krsna and offer it to Krsna and eat it. That's all.
The mode of life should be changed. That is Krsna consciousness. It is
not that you shall give up eating. No, how can I give you that? No, it
is not possible. Neither Krsna says, "Just give up eating." Never you
will find in the Bhagavad... Yuktahara-viharasya. You must eat what
you need. Yuktahara-viharasya yogo bhavati duhkha-ha. Krsna never says
that "Unnecessarily you starve." You never find in the Bhagavad-gita;
neither any acarya will say. Rather, you offer to Krsna first-class
foodstuff because He is the enjoyer, and Krsna is so kind, He will
leave everything for you for taking prasadam. So automatically you can
satisfy your tongue. You offer to Krsna first-class food, and Krsna is
so kind that He will eat; at the same time, He will keep it for you.
Purnasya purnam adaya purnam eva avasisyate. Krsna's eating is not
like that: because you have given Him very nice foodstuff, He will eat
everything and nothing for you. (laughter) That is not Krsna. Krsna
eats everything, He accepts your service, and keeps everything for
So this is bhakti-marga. It is very nice. Simply you have to learn
how to engage your senses. Hrsikena hrsikesa-sevanam bhaktir ucyate.
Your senses are property of Hrsikesa.
… This is Krsna consciousness. You have to act by the desires of
Krsna. That is the proper use of your senses. You cannot use for your
purpose. Anything... Just like you are working in some establishment.
Anything in that establishment, you can use for the proprietor's
business. You cannot use it. Just like in hospital there are blankets.
It is written there, "Hospital Property." So long you are in the
hospital, you can use it. But you cannot take it outside. Then you are
criminal. Similarly, everything... Isavasyam idam sarvam. Everything
belongs to God, and you can use it for the service of God. You can use it as prasadam, but everything should be offered to the Supreme. Yajnarthe karmanah loko
'yam karma-bandhanah. If you do not do that, if you engage yourself
always in good activities, as the karmis they do, and earn money and
use it for your own sense gratification, that is papa activity.
"Those who are cooking in the kitchen very palatable dishes for
satisfying the tongue, they are simply eating sinful things." Ye
So therefore, if we become sinful every moment, how we can become
happy? It is not possible. If you want to become happy, you have to
become pious. And the standard of piety is to become Krsna conscious,
devotee of Krsna. That is the highest perfection of life.
Thank you very much. (end)
sound... The sound is sabda-brahma. Sound is actually spiritual, the
Vedic sound om, omkara. Omkarasmi sarva-vedesu. So Vedic sound begins:
om. So that is a sound. So if we capture that sound and make further
progress, sabdad anavrtti... In the Vedanta-sutra it is there,
anavrtti, no more repetition of birth and death, omkara. If one can
chant omkara at the time of death, immediately transferred to the
spiritual world, impersonal spiritual effulgence. But if you can chant
Hare Krsna, then immediately you go to the spiritual planet. These are
stated in the Bhagavad-gita. Anta-kale, at the time of death, if you
can capture this sound, omkara or Hare Krsna... If you capture omkara,
then you are transferred to the spiritual sky.
So we require protection. Therefore, mahatmanas tu mam partha
daivim prakrtim asritah. The mahatma, they are also given protection
by daivi-prakrti, Krsna's maya. Therefore we chant "Hare Krsna," not
alone "Krsna." Hara is Krsna's energy, so we first of all take the
shelter of Krsna's energy, daivi-maya, Radharani. In Vrndavana they
chant "Radha-Krsna," "Jaya Radhe." The general addressing is "Radhe,"
like that. So to take shelter of the daivi-maya... Mahatmanas tu mam
partha daivim prakrtim asritah. If we take shelter of the daivi-maya,
Radharani, then She will give us intelligence in such a way that we
can take shelter of Krsna perfectly
There is another example: the potter's wheel. Potter's wheel is producing
earthen pots. So what is the cause? Somebody will say that "The dirt,
earth, is the cause of this pot because it is made of earth." Another
will say, "No, the cause is the wheel. Because the wheel is going
around, therefore it is coming out." But these two causes, prakrti and
pradhana, ingredients and the instrument, they are not causes. The
cause is the potter. Cause is the potter. The potter is giving force
going around. You have seen it. With the rod it moves like that. When
the wheel is in motion, then the earth is brought into a shape of
different shape of pots. Therefore material cause, remote cause,
efficient cause--they are not cause. Real cause is Krsna,
Now, sastra says that avicyutah arthah. Arthah means purpose. If
somebody asks, "What is the purpose of becoming scientist? What is the
purpose of becoming physicist?" so different men will give different
answers: "It is meant for this purpose. It is meant for this purpose."
But kavibhih, those who are actually learned, advanced learning, they
have said that avicyuta. Avicyuta means without any failure, without
any contradiction. You say that chemistry is required for this
purpose. I say chemistry is required for this purpose. Another man
says chemistry is required for this purpose. But difference of
opinion. That is not accepted. Avicyuta, infallible purpose. What is
that infallible purpose? Avicyutah arthah kavibhir nirupitah. Nirupita
means it is already settled. You haven't got to make research anymore.
Nirupita means it is already concluded. What is that?
gunanuvarnanam. If you can explain the
Krsna, Uttamasloka, how He is acting, how is the chemical process is
going on under His direction, if you can write a thesis on this
subject matter, that ultimately Krsna is behind that, then your this
study of chemistry is perfect. Avicyutah arthah kavibhir nirupitah.
Nirupita means it is concluded. No more argument. That is the purpose.
That means if you are intelligent enough actually, then through any
source of knowledge you come ultimately to Krsna. That mayadhyaksena
prakrtih suyate sa-caracaram. The Krsna says. But if by your
education, if you come to the same point, that "Here is Krsna. He is
in the background, sarva-karana-karanam, cause of all causes," then
that education is perfect. Otherwise it is srama eva hi kevalam.
Otherwise it is simply laboring for nothing, waste of time
... also one of the varieties. So how we can become variety-less,
nirvisesa? That is not possible. Even artificially we try to become
nirvisesa, variety-less, our constitutional position is that we want
variety. How it can be stopped? Therefore in the sastra it is said,
the so-called Mayavadi, impersonalist, monist, aruhya krcchrena param
padam tatah, although they get ... lotus feet, they come down again in
this material world and worship the feet of maya. That is their
position. Aruhya krcchrena param padam tatah patanty adhah. And as
soon as you are engaged in the service of maya, that is your adhah
patanti. Adhah patanti. As we, all these materialistic person who are
within this material, you are serving maya... Everyone is serving.
Nobody is without serving. But they are serving maya. So you have to
transfer your service from maya to Krsna. Then your life will be
successful and you will taste different varieties of prasadam perpetually and enjoy
life eternally and blissfully. Thank you very much.
abhinivesa. The mind being affected by the material contamination, we
are suffering so-called miserable condition of life. It is due to the
mind. Otherwise, as it is said, one man is satisfied in a very poor
condition of life, and another man is not satisfied even in the best
opulent condition of life. Why? It is due to the mind. It is due to
… bhoktaram yajna-tapasam
jnatva mam santim rcchati
Santi. If we learn these three things, then we'll get santi. Santi,
that is clearly explained in Caitanya-caritamrta also. It is said in
the Bhagavad-gita, Krsna says, jnatva mam. "Me," Krsna says--person.
Just like "Give me."
So Krsna says, jnatva mam. What is that? So we have to know Krsna,
that He is actually enjoyer. Master and servant. If the servant knows
that "In this house my master is the proprietor. He is the enjoyer. I
am simply servant," then he is peaceful. But if he artificially tries
to become the master although he is servant there, then there is all
disturbance. So here our miserable conditions are caused by our
thinking that "I am the proprietor. I am the owner. I am the enjoyer."
One becomes to owner, proprietor, because he wants to enjoy. So this
is our disease. Actually, we are servant of Krsna. Jivera svarupa haya
nitya-krsna-dasa. This is our original position. We are servant, even
in this condition. But we are servant of maya, illusion--means we are
servant of our lusty desires, kama, krodha, anger, lobha, greediness,
moha, illusion, so many, mada, madness. We are servant of these
propensities. We are not master. When you become master of these sense
gratification processes, then you are svami
aroma from the earth. So the good smell of the flower... In some other
place it is said in the Bhagavatam that the..., when you see flower,
you see Krsna smiling. That is the seeing of Krsna smiling. Therefore
the flower should be utilized for Krsna's service.
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This material world means first of all we
have got desire of sex, mixing together, man and woman ..This morning was...
Some devotee was discussing that the daily passengers, sometimes they
go from home three to four hours, come to Bombay, and they work their
eight hours. Then again three to four hours. So somebody was asking,
"Why they should go? They can remain in the city." No. Their central
point is there. Central point is sex. Nidraya hriyate naktam vyavayena
ca va vayah. The materialistic person's life is being spoiled in this
way. That is described by Sukadeva Gosvami. Nidraya hriyate naktam: "At
night they spoil the valuable time by sleeping." Nidraya hriyate
naktam vyavayena ca va vayah. Vyavaya. Vyavaya means sex. "Either by
sex or by sleeping." Diva carthehaya rajan kutumba-bharanena va: "And
during daytime they are after money, 'Where is money? Where is money?'
And if they get money, 'How to spend it for kutumba, for family
members?' " This is material life
... but if we take it, accept it as prasadam after offering Krsna...
In the Vaisnava philosophy, if somebody is going to use one new pair
of cloth, first of all he offers to Krsna. Then he utilizes. That is
Vaisnava philosophy. There is also eating, sleeping. We require
residence. Everything we require. But we require it ...
So ether, the sky, we cannot see, we cannot touch, we cannot smell.
But we can hear the sound. As soon as there is sound, that, we know
that there is ether or sky. The sound vibration... As we have got
experience of this material sound and therefore the material sky,
similarly, there is spiritual sound and there is spiritual sky.
Without sky, there is no sound. So there is spiritual sky. We get
information from sastra: paravyoma. Vyoma is called sky, and there is
another sky. This is material sky, what we have experience. There is
spiritual sky.. So after this sky, there is another sky, and the
sound produced from that sky is omkara and Hare Krsna mantra. This is
the sound vibration from the spiritual sky. Therefore it is effective
immediately. Just like you contact thousands of miles away--somebody
is speaking, and you can contact by the sound vibration you catch up
with your machine, radio machine--similarly, the sound vibration from
the spiritual sky you can also receive. That is Hare Krsna mantra.
Therefore Narottama dasa Thakura has described this Hare Krsna
mantra, "not of this material sky." Golokera prema-dhana,
hari-nama-sankirtana. Hari-nama-sankirtana, this is not a material
But in the spiritual world, the name and the person or the
substance is the same. There is no difference. Krsna and Krsna's name
is the same. There is no difference. Therefore, those who are chanting
"Krsna, Krsna, Krsna," they are becoming more and more engladdened,
enthusiastic to chant. Anandambudhi-vardhanam. Caitanya Mahaprabhu
says, "By chanting Hare Krsna, the first installment of benefit is
ceto-darpana-marjanam: you become cleansed of your heart, cleansed of
the contamination of your heart." There are many verses. Srnvatam
sva-kathah krsnah punya-sravana-kirtanah. If you don't get anything
because there is nama-aparadha, offenses in chanting... There are ten
kinds of offenses. So if you can avoid the offenses... The name is
pure, "Krsna." But even though it is chanted offensive, by chanting,
chanting, you become cleansed. Ceto-darpana-marjanam. It may take
little time, but be sure that your consciousness will be cleansed,
clear, transparent, and that is Krsna consciousness.
... by the spiritual master. So how is that?" He was feeling little
agitation. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu immediately encouraged him, "Don't
hesitate." This is Caitanya Mahaprabhu's example. He is teaching
everything by His personal example. His purpose was that in this
Kali-yuga the distinction between brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra
will be almost finished. ...
Now, this Devahuti's position is a perfect woman. She got good
father, she got good husband, and she got excellent son. So woman has
got three stages in life. Man has got ten stages. These three stages
mean that when she is younger, she must live under the protection of
father. Just like Devahuti when she was grown up, young, she proposed
her father that "I want to marry that gentleman, that yogi." And the
father also offered. So, so long she was not married she remained
under the protection of the father. And when she was married she
remained with the yogi husband.
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rajo-guna, tamo-guna, you can make progress spiritual life. Because we
must be in either of these. Just like a train is going on: there is
first class, second class, third class. So because the train is going,
either you place yourself in the first-class compartment or second
class, you will go. You will go. It is not that because you are
situated in the third-class compartment the your train is not going.
No, you can go. Similarly, Bhagavad-gita has taught that one can go
back to home, back to Godhead, in any position, provided he knows how
to tackle the situation.
Sva-dharma. Sva-dharma will be explained, and it is explained in
the Bhagavad... Sva-dharma means one may be in goodness, one may be in
passion, one may be in darkness, and one may be in mixture. So that is
divided into four classes of men: the brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, and
sudra. So Bhagavad-gita teaches us that anyone, if he worships the
Supreme Personality of Godhead by sva-dharma, by his occupational
duty, he also becomes perfect. For example, just like Arjuna. He was a
military man, and his sva-dharma, his occupational duty, was to fight.
So that fighting capacity he engaged himself in the service of Krsna,
and he became a devotee. Krsna certified, bhakto 'si. What did he do?
He did not chant Hare Krsna mantra. Of course, he was chanting Hare
…Krsna mantra constantly because he was thinking of Krsna. He had no
other business than to think of Krsna. But by formality he did not
become a Vaisnava or chanting. But he was always thinking of Krsna.
Therefore he is certified as the foremost yogi. Yoginam api sarvesam.
So that is the trick--how we shall always think of Krsna even we
are engaged in our occupation duty. That will make us perfect.
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if you do not understand, then you are animal. Here is a practical
example. How it has become possible that the white Americans,
Europeans, and other colors and the black African, they have forgotten
everything? When they chant Hare Krsna and dance, do they remember
that "I am African," "I am American," "I am Indian"? No.
Brahma-bhutah. (devotee laughs) (aside:) Why you are laughing? It is
so important thing.
So this is brahma-bhutah stage.
na socati na kanksati
samah sarvesu bhutesu
mad-bhaktim labhate param
This is brahma-bhutah stage, practical, not that "I am Brahman. I am
the same God." These rascals have spoiled the whole thing. Here is
brahma-bhutah stage, when you forget your material identification and
you become one in connection with Krsna, that "We are all devotees,
servants of Krsna. Let us enjoy, chant Hare Krsna and dance." This is
brahma-bhutah stage, not that artificially smoking cigarette and he
has become brahma-bhutah. He is cigarette-bhutah. Bhuta and cigarette
smoker. How he is brahma-bhutah? These rascals say like that, table
talks, "I am Brahman." Brahman. Doing all nonsense and he has become
So dhyayed devam samagrangam. The dhyana, the meditation, should
begin from the lotus feet. As soon as you begin kirtana, first of all
concentrate your mind on the lotus feet, not all of a sudden jump over
the face. Be practiced to think over the lotus feet, then still
higher, the knees, then the thighs, then the belly, then the chest. In
this way, at last go to the face. This is the process. It is described
in the Second Canto. The process is how to think of Krsna. Man-mana
bhava mad-bhaktah. This is meditation.
. Pious means there is no reaction of sinful life. It is all squared up. That you can do at any moment. Krsna takes charge. Krsna says, buddhih sarva-papebhyo
moksayisyami. He can do that. He can nullify the destiny.
devotional service, especially this sravanam, kirtanam and arcanam,
arcanam, worshiping the Deity, and sravanam kirtanam. Even if you
follow one, that is sufficient, but there are nine different
processes. As far as possible, we shall execute everything, and, at
least, sravanam kirtanam visnoh smaranam pada-sevanam, arcanam. Arcana
is very important. For kanistha-adhikari, devotee in the lower stage,
arcana is very, very important. Although the devotee in the higher
stage, he also offers worship, but Krsna is everywhere. For a neophyte
devotee Just like some people say that "Why you should go to the
temple? Krsna is everywhere." Who was asking that question? "Krsna
cannot be served..." Here, last night. I think those girls, svarna(?)
girls. Krsna is everywhere, that is a fact, but that is for the
paramhamsa, one who is very very advanced. For the kanistha-adhikari,
he cannot He, like parrot, he can say, "Krsna is everywhere." He must
be educated, "Here is Krsna in the temple." Otherwise it is simply
blaspheme, that "Krsna is everywhere." That's a fact, but where is
your realization? Krsna is within your heart. Have you got that
realization? Isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese 'rjuna tisthati. Have you
got that realization, that Krsna is within your heart? Can you talk
with Krsna? He says, Krsna says, "I talk." Buddhi yogam-dadami tam.
Krsna gives intelligence. Krsna is giving, but have you got that
So these are all facts, that Krsna is everywhere, Krsna is within
your heart, Krsna is within the atom. Andantara
stha-paramanu-cayantara-tham. That's a fact, but where is your
realization? Therefore you have to begin realization by arcana. That
is very essential. Then more you become expert in arcana, ye yatha mam
prapadyante, the more you become realized, then more you become
advanced. So therefore, for kanistha-adhikari, he has to raise
… arcayam eva haraye
yah pujam sraddhayehate
na tad-bhaktesu canyesu
sa bhaktah prakrtah smrtah
By executing this arca-vigraha, arcanam, gradually you advance. But if
you simply remain in the arcana-viddhi or arcana process, and you
cannot understand who is a bhakta and what to do with others... That
is also a bhakta's duty, not that simply we shall remain engaged in
arcana. We must know how to respect devotee, how to do some service to
others also. That is madhyama-adhikari. Simply if you become
satisfied, that "Now I am initiated and I am offering arcana. I have
become perfect," no, the perfection is still awaiting. You have to
understand who is a devotee. You have to understand how to give
service to the innocent. If you do not know that, then if you simply
become packed up by arca-vigraha-seva, arcana, then you will remain in
the material platform. Na tad-bhaktesu canyesu sa bhaktah prakrtah
smrtah. Prakrtah means material. He is trying to go to the spiritual
platform, but if he simply remains in the arcana and does not preach,
this is na tad-bhaktesu canyesu. Anyesu. Anyesu means those who are
innocent. That is madhyama-adhikari, middle stage.
... So we should remain tad-adhina, always
under Krsna. That is our perfection. If we remain just like in Western
countries--they rebel. If a woman is advised to remain under the
control of the husband, that is insult to them. They cannot tolerate
it. But actually we see in India that a wife who remains under the
guidance of the husband, she is happy. That's a practical fact. That
is a practical fact. And therefore in the Manu-samhita it is advised,
na striyam svatantram arhati. Women should be always protected. That
is... Protection does not mean negligence, no. Protection means to
give him (her) all facilities. That is protection. Just like father
gives protection to the chil... That does not mean neglecting.
Similarly, a woman should be protected. It is not that neglecting.
They misunderstand. In the Western countries maybe there is
misbehavior, but actually we have seen, still going on in India, the
woman is... That is the ideal given by Lord Ramacandra, how woman is
given protection by the husband. Sitadevi was kidnapped. Ramacandra is
the Supreme Lord. He could have married many thousands of Sita, but as
the dutiful husband, to rescue one wife He killed the whole family of
Ravana. This is protection. He killed the whole family of him. He
became... This is. So woman requires protection, and the husband is
responsible to give protection, the father is responsible to give
protection, and the elderly children, they are resonsible to give
Just like a father is always anxious to see his
children are well protected, similarly, Krsna is also always anxious
to give protection to His subordinates. But if the subordinate
denounce Krsna, "I don't want Your protection," then suffer your
karma. That you are doing. Those who are in the material world, they
are suffering. Why? They have given up the protection of Krsna. They
are thinking that "We can protect ourself. What is the use of Krsna?"
So this is called dharmasya glanih. This is deviation from the natural
way of life, when you give up the protection.
Brahmananda: His question... You stated that a statue of yourself is
not the same as you, and yet in some of our temples, such as
Vrndavana, the murti of Your Divine Grace has been installed and they
are offering prasadam. So is it the same, that the prasadam is
accepted by the guru?
Prabhupada: Yes. Saksad-dharitvena samasta-sastraih. Guru is
nondifferent from Krsna. That is accepted by all the sastra.
Saksad-dharitvena samasta sastraih. Saksad-dharitvena samasta-sastrair
uktah: "It is said," tatha bhavyata eva sadbhih, "and those who are
advanced devotees, they accept it like that." Kintu prabhor yah priya
eva tasya: "But the guru's position is the most confidential servant."
So guru is the servant God, and Krsna is the master God. Both of them
are God, servant God and master God. Guru krsna krpaya paya
bhakti-lata-bija. So we have to serve both the servant and the master.
Through the servant, we go to the master. Any other question? Chant
For the hatha-yogis, they have to select place, asana.
Dhyana, dharana, asana... Asana is also one of the activities. But
here, in Vaisnava philosophy, you are seeing the Deity always, at
least daily, so you have got some impression that "Our temple Deity is
like this." That impression, either you are sitting in one place
without any activities, sthitam vrajantam... While walking on the
street also, you can think of this Deity. There is no difficulty,
either you are sitting or you are walking or you are standing, any
way. Because the mind is there in Krsna, in Krsna's form. Therefore
Deity worship is so essential for the neophyte. He can have always the
opportunity to think of the Supreme Lord by the impression of the
Deity within the mind. Sayanam. Even in lying down, even talking.
So this is our process. This is the perfect process. You don't
require any artificial method to think of God. It is natural. If you
simply come to the temple daily, chant in the front of the Deity, Hare
Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare. Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama
Rama, Hare Hare, then you become advanced immediately.
….this process, this arcana process. If we... Everyone alternately they
should learn how to worship. That will give the impression of the Lord
within the heart, and then, either you are walking or you are sitting
or you are lying or you are eating or you are talking, you'll always
think of Krsna. This is the process. It will be automatically done.
Sthitam vrajantam asinam sayanam va guhasayam. Generally the yogis,
they try to find out the Visnu murti within the core of the heart, but
this is as good. When you are walking on the street, then, if you are
thinking, there will be no hindrance to your activities, but you can
think of Krsna. Sa vai manah krsnah. Just like Maharaja Ambarish. He
was emperor. He had many responsibilities, but he practiced how to
think of Krsna always. Sa vai manah krsna-padaravindayor vacamsi
vaikuntha-gunanuvarnane. You engage your senses.
So this is practice. First of all think of the Deity. First of all
think of the lotus feet, then the knees, then the eyes, then the
belly, then the chest. In this way, as you become practiced, then go
further, advance. In this way, when you become fully practiced, then
automatically, in whatever condition you are, you will be able to
meditate upon Krsna. That is the highest perfection of life. Satatam
kirtayanto mam. Satatam cintayanto mam. If you always think of Krsna,
…..you know. As soon as they see these Hare Krsna movement people, they
also chant, "Hare Krsna," giving a chance to the others. The dress is
also required. You should be always equipped with tilaka, kunti, and
sikha, sutra. Then, as soon as a common man sees, "Oh, here is a Hare
Krsna man. Hare Krsna," he'll chant. Automatically you give a chance
to chant Hare Krsna.
So this is required. The foolish rascals, they say that "What is
the necessity of this, that?" No. This is necessity. You must always
remain dressed like a Vaisnava. That is necessity. So preksaniya: "is
very beautiful to see." Otherwise how they became impressed?
Immediately they become so pious that they chant Hare Krsna. The
chanting of Hare Krsna is not so easy. So many people come here, but
when there is chanting, they do not chant because it is not easy.
Yaj-jihvagre nama tubhyam. In the sastra it is said, aho bata
sva-pacato 'pi gariyan yaj-jihvagre nama tubhyam. Anyone who is
chanting Hare Krsna, jihvagre, with the tongue, even if he is born in
a family of dog-eaters he is glorious. He is glorious. Yaj-jihvagre
nama tubhyam. So we give this chance. As soon as he chants Hare Krsna,
immediately he becomes glorious. Immediately become glorious.
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no sun, then what is the value of this world? We have got good
experience. In the Western countries where there is no sun, it is
hell, simply hell, simply hell without sun. All the condemned
countries are devoid of sunlight. This morning we were speaking that
London, it is without sunlight practically throughout the whole year.
Long ago, in 1969, in the television, the television man asked me that
"Where is hell?" and "It is here in London." (laughter)
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That is described in the sastra. Yasya prabha prabhavato
jagad-anda-koti. Krsna's body is bluish or blackish; therefore you see
the sky bluish because the rays in the spiritual world is effulgence,
bluish effulgence, and that is being reflected through the sky. Yasya
prabha prabhavato jagad-anda-koti. His bodily light is being reflected
in millions and trillions of universes. Yasya prabha prabhavato
jagad-anda-koti. Jagad-anda. Jagad-anda means... Anda, it is round.
….lokan punar avartino 'rjuna. Don't think that by going to the heavenly
planet you'll be happy there. No. There is no possibility. Either you
go to the heavenly planet or you go to the hell, you will have to
undergo the threefold miserable conditions.
Prabhupada: Tesam satata-yuktanam bhajatam priti-purvakam. When Krsna
sees that "He is worshiping Me with faith and reverence and love,"
then buddhi-yogam dadami tam. He'll give you intelligence. He is
within you. Therefore I was saying, "First of all become fit. First of
all deserve. Then desire." Why foolishly you desire something for
which you do not deserve? That is your fault. That is misuse. Don't
desire something without being deserving. So these are the process
given how to think, how to meditate upon Krsna. So practice it. Become
qualified. Then you'll see everything. Without being qualified, why
you want to see? This devotional service means practicing how to
become qualified. Sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam, sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam
tat-paratvena nirmalam. You have to become fully cleansed.
Tat-paratvena nirmalam. Sarva... What is that? Anyabhilasita-sunyam.
We have to become completely zero about material desires.
Anyabhilasita-sunyam. Then you become qualified. So long you have got
any pinch of material desires, you are disqualified.
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belongs to God. And we, we are, because we are His sons, we have got
the right to use our father's property, but not illegally. What is
allotted to us by our father we can accept, that's all. One who
lives... That is stated in the Isopanisad, that kurvann eveha karmani
jijivisec chatam samah. If you accept this principle, then you can
live for hundreds of years without any sin. Otherwise you become
complicated in the laws of material nature. And so long we are
complicated, entangled by the laws of material nature, then we shall
have to transmigrate from this one kind of body to another kind of
body, and our material existence will be prolonged.
accustomed to this habit, but by my order they have restrained. In the
beginning there is plot of land and a cow--your whole economic
question is solved. Why you should work so hard day and night? So we
have created a civilization simply working hard day and night, and the
purpose is sense gratification. That's all. That is prohibited. Make
your life simplified. Save your time for Krsna consciousness. That is
the program. Don't be implicated with sinful activities. Simple life.
Just like your father says, "My dear boy, you take your food just in
time, and you do this work, and I'll be satisfied." If you do that,
then father is satisfied. But if you take from the pocket of your
father or from the cash box without his permission, then you are
So by God's arrangement, everything is there. Everything. Purnam
idam. Purnam idam purnam adah purnam idam purnat purnam udacyate.
Everything is complete in this world. There is no scarcity. We have
simply created scarcity by our mismanagement. But if we take up the
laws as they are prescribed in the scriptures and live peacefully,
there is no scarcity. My Guru Maharaja used to say that in this world
there is no scarcity by the arrangement of God. But the only scarcity
is this Krsna consciousness. People are not Krsna conscious. They're
materially conscious. They're sensually conscious. That has to be
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body..." Nayam deho deha-bhajam nrloke. Deha-bhajam means there are
other living entities also. There are 8,400,000 different forms of
living entities. Out of them, only 400,000 forms of bodies are human
beings. Out of the 400,000 species of human beings, mostly they are
uncivilized. And out of them, a very few men are civilized. And out of
many civilized persons, a very few know what is Vedic knowledge. And
out of many persons who know Vedic knowledge, they do not act
according to the Vedic instructions. And those who act, they are attached to
karma-kandiya-vicara, fruitive activities. Just like perform yajnas
and be elevated to the heavenly planets. These are called
karma-kandiya-vicara. Out of many thousands of these persons who are
attached to karma-kandiya chapter of Vedas, one, somebody may be
jnani. Jnani means "one who knows, one who is in perfect knowledge."
Not perfect knowledge, but searching after knowledge, jnani. And out
of many thousands of jnanis, one is mukta. Mukta means liberated,
liberated from material body. And out of many thousands of muktas,
there is very difficult to find out a devotee of Krsna.
… So actually, in the Western
countries, these things are ordinary things, so they do not take it as
any bad thing or any sinful, but according to Vedic sastra, these four
principles are the basic principles or the four pillars of sinful
life. Striya-suna-pana-dyuta yatra papas catur-vidha.
So the real purpose of life, as it is advised by Rsabhadeva: tapo
divyam. "My dear boys, just accept austerity and penances for
transcendental realization," divyam. Divyam means the platform where
God can be understood. Just like Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita,
janma karma me divyam yo janati tattvatah. If we can understand God on
the transcendental platform, not in this material platform by
imagination or speculation--that is not God. One has to understand God
on the transcendental platform, suddha-sattva. Sattvam visuddham
vasudeva-sabditam. On the vasudeva platform we can understand
Vasudeva. Om namo bhagavate vasudevaya.
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any... Hrsikena hrsikesa-sevanam bhaktir ucyate. When you come to that
purest form of spirit soul, you don't think that your indriyas, or
senses, are lost. No. Senses are there. At that time, if you enjoy
your senses in cooperation with the Supreme, that is called bhakti, or
So it is not very difficult to become free from all designations.
It is not very difficult. Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu has given us very
simple method, supported by Vedic injunction. What is that? Param
vijayate sri-krsna-sankirtanam…… So unless one will come to the platform of self-realization, we are in the trouble, so long we are not self-realized. Parabhavas tavad
abodha-jato yavan na jijnasata atma-tattvam. Without self-realization,
whatever we are acting, we are piling up the stones and woods and iron
in such skyscraper building. So we may do that, but it is our defeat.
It is not conquering; it is defeat. Parabhavas tavad abodha-jato yavan
na jijnasata atma-tattvam. If we don't inquire about ourself, "What I
am? Why I am put into this miserable condition of life, birth, death,
old age, and there are so many other things...?" Unless you come to
question why, your human life is not perfect.
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So when, after associating with the modes of goodness for many,
many years--or not many, many years but many, many lives--then one can
become very intelligent brahmana.
bahunam janmanam ante
jnanavan mam prapadyate
vasudevah sarvam iti
sa mahatma sudurlabhah
After many, many births of this kind of contaminated diseases and
births and body, when by culture of knowledge, by austerities, by
penances, by brahminical culture, one becomes very, very learned and
wise, at that time he can understand what is God--not before that.
Bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan. Not the rascals and the fools can
understand what is God. Only the jnanavan.
So after becoming Brahman realized soul, when he is fully liberated
from material contamination--goodness passion or
ignorance--prasannatma, na socati na kanksati, he has no material
hankering, neither he laments for any material loss. Samah sarvesu
bhutesu, when he visions all living entities as spirit soul,
mad-bhaktim labhate param, at that time he is eligible to understand
what is bhakti. And bhaktya mam abhijanati yavan yas casmi tattvatah.
If you become bhakta, if you have got the opportunity to come to that
platform, then you can understand God. Otherwise, God is not so easy
to understand. (break--questions and answers)
that is unnatural. Because we are part and parcel of God, we living
entities, we should be as happy as God is. That is our position.
…. We are trying tobe happy fighting with unhappiness, but we do not know our real
unhappiness are that we have to die, we have to take birth again, we
have to become diseased and we have to accept old age.
Janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi duhkha-dosanudarsanam. This is intelligence,
that "I am trying to solve all the problems of life by advancement of
civilization, education, scientific knowledge and so many things.
That's all right. But what is the solution of my, these four principle
of miserable condition: birth, death, old age and disease?" And
because we cannot make any solution, we set aside these four problems.
We go on with the temporary problems and become busy to solve it, and
in this way we waste our, this valuable human form of life like the
cats and dogs. This is the instruction.
…svabhava-jam. There must be sufficient milk in the human society. If
you drink more milk and milk products, then your brain will be very
sharp. You will understand things very nicely, corectly. Therefore
milk is very important. In the Vedic sastra cow protection is
recommended. Why? Because milk is very, very important thing…
Prabhupada: No fate can be changed. I understand. These questions are
generally put. Fate can be changed.
Guest (3): By name.
Prabhupada: By Krsna consciousness. Karmani nirdahati kintu ca
bhakti-bhajam. Others cannot change their fate, but only the devotees
can change. How? Krsna says, aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami.
Krsna says, "I shall give you protection from all the resultant action
of your sinful life." That is fate changed. If you don't surrender to
Krsna, then you have to suffer or enjoy the actions of your fruitive
activities. But when you surrender to Krsna, He takes charge of
squaring up all your sinful activities and their reaction. That is...
So you surrender to Krsna; then your fate is changed. Otherwise it is
Simply by... Caitanya Mahaprabhu has recommended not whimsically. This is the prescription of this age:kirtanad eva krsnasya mukta-sangah param vrajet. If you perfectly
chant this Hare Krsna mantra, kirtanad eva krsnasya--not any other
name but Krsna--mukta-sangah: you can become free from this material
association, or the contamination due to material contact. That is the
special advantage of this age
So Caitanya Mahaprabhu, maha-vadanyavatara, He is patita-pavana. He
is the deliverer of all the fallen souls. He has given us this much
tapasya prescription. Tapasya must be there. And that is very easy to
be done by us. It is not very difficult. One has to become very
humble. That is the first qualification. Trnad api sunicena. Sunicena
means lower than the grass. Just like we trample over the grass; they
do not protest. Trnad api sunicena taror api sahisnuna. And tolerant,
humbler than the grass and tolerant than the tree. A tree gives us all
benefit, but in return we give the tree so much trouble. We snatch
away the twigs, we snatch away the leaves. Sometimes for our fuel we
cut down. But there is no protest. So these things have been taught by
Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Trnad api sunicena taror api sahisnuna amanina
manadena. Nobody should think himself that he is very prestigious
person, falsely. Nobody is prestigious. Everyone should be humble. So
these three, four things we should learn, and that is tapasya. And we
should avoid the sinful activities, namely, no illicit sex, no
meat-eating, no gambling, no intoxication. These are some of the
positive and negative formulas given by Caitanya Mahaprabhu. And if we
follow this tapasya and chant Hare Krsna, then our life is successful.
…should be very careful not to become like cats and dogs but to become
very humble--humbler than the grass and tolerant than the tree.
Amanina. Everyone wants that "I am very honorable man, prestigious
man. And you should respect me." That is our material disease. "I do
not want to respect you, but you should offer me respect." This is the
position. Therefore our system is to call another Vaisnava as prabhu.
"Sir, you are prabhu, you are master." But we call prabhu, but I
think, "No, you are not prabhu; I am prabhu. You are servant." This
cheating process will not help us. Actually, we should believe that he
is prabhu. "He is servant of Krsna; therefore he is my prabhu." This
is Vaisnava mentality. Gopi-bhartur pada-kamalayor
dasa-dasa-dasa-dasanudasa. One who wants to become servant of the
servant of the servant of the servant, he is actually prabhu. If
falsely one thinks that "I am prabhu," then his life is spoiled. So
this word we use amongst ourself, prabhu, means that "I am your
servant, you are my master." But that should be practically exhibited.
That is called tapasya, to learn all these things.
Without tapasya, we cannot get out of this conditioned state. That
is not possible. Those who are thinking that "Let us do whatever
nonsense I can do, and at the same time I become free from this
material condition..." No. That is not possible. One has to undergo
Now in the bodily conception of life we are so much contaminated
that our existence is now polluted. Actually it is polluted, because
Krsna says, na jayate na mriyate va kadacin na hanyate hanyamane
sarire. This is our position. Our position is we never take birth. We
are not subjected to take birth because we are part and parcel of God,
spirit soul. And na jayate na mriyate va: we do not die. How we are
seeing... Every day we are dying. My father die, my brother die, my
neighbor die. How is that? Na hanyate hanyamane sarire. This is our
position. We do not die, even the body is destroyed. So where is that
knowledge throughout the whole world? There is no such... There is no
university, no school, no college to impart this knowledge, ….
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So the cause is godlessness. If we become godless, the prakrti will
restrict supply--so much so there will be anavrsti. How can control?
Because you may be very great scientist, you may deny the existence of
God, but when there is anavrsti you are looking up in the sky, "When
there will be cloud? When there will be rain?" Then taking this plea,
our government will tax for relief fund. That is all mentioned in
Srimad-Bhagavatam. Anavrsti karo-pidita. People will be so much
harassed. And acchina-dara-dravina giri-kananam. They will be so much
harassed by these three principles--no rainfall, scarcity of grains,
and taxed heavily by the government... They will be so much harassed
that acchinna-dara-dravina giri-kananam, they will be forced to leave
home, that "Now it is hopeless. I cannot manage. Let me go to the
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Now when the man visited the prostitute's house, she received the
man. In India it is system that when you receive a gentleman or lady
you must give him sumptuously to eat. So there was many palatable
dishes served to the man, and each vegetable and each preparation was
put in two pots--one in iron pots and one in golden pots. So he was
eating. Now this man asked the prostitute, "Well, you have given me
the same preparation in two pots: one in gold pot and one in iron pot.
Why? What is the idea?" So she said that "First of all taste it. Then
I shall disclose what is the idea." So he was tasting, eating. Then
the prostitute asked him, "How do you like?" "Oh, it is very nice."
"Then, is there any different taste in the golden pot?" "No. Same
taste." "And the iron pot?" "Oh, the same taste." So she replied at
that time that "You are so rascal that you want to gratify your
senses, but you do not know that sense gratification in poor wife or
rich wife is the same. There is no difference of taste, so why you are
after a woman by paying this one hundred thousands of jewels?" The
idea is... This story is very instructive, and it is mentioned in the
Srimad-Bhagavatam. The idea is the same thing... (break) ...sense
gratification is the ultimate aim of life, then why so much hard
trouble for decorating the process of sense gratification? Why wasting
so much time for decorating?
So Rsabhadeva is asking that sense gratification there is
necessity, because we have got senses. But not with too much trouble,
accepting too much trouble in the name of economic development.
Because our time is very valuable. If we want to utilize our short
duration of life which we have got at our disposal, we must utilize it
for self-realization, not for unnecessarily increasing the necessities
of bodily wants. This is not a good type of civilization, simply
wasting time for sense gratification. Time should be utilized for
The instruction is still standing, Krsna
said, sarva-dharman parityajya, "Just simply surrender unto Me." But
nobody is doing that. God says that, "You surrender unto Me; I shall
give you all protection." There is assurance. But we are so
unfortunate that we cannot believe or cannot be assured on the words
of God also. We do not believe. "Oh, God cannot give us protection.
Let me try my own technology. I shall protect myself." This is the
world(?). That means he's not detached with these material activities.
their food. Everyone is working hard; they also come. So animals also,
they (are) also working very hard. That is given example, the hogs and
dogs. That is restricted. If you go on working for better standard of
life, then you'll be attached to this work and your mind will be
absorbed in such work. And if the mind continues to be absorbed in
working so hard, then after giving up this body, you'll have to accept
another body to fulfill such desires within the mind. Krsna will give
you full facility.
Rsabhadeva says that simply for sense gratification, don't work so
much. Actually, we haven't got to work. Everything is there. We have
repeatedly discussed. Just like in the morning the birds get up, they
do not work very hard. They know that "We shall go in some, upon some
tree, and there is food, there is some fruit, and we shall eat." There
is no, no good prob..., very great problem. The animals also, they are
assured, everyone is assured. And even human being, just like
sannyasis, they are also assured. Just like when I came to your
country, there was no friend, there was no relative, but assurance was
there that "I am going for Krsna's business. So there is some
provision, never mind where it is." That much faith we must have.
Actually, for even one is not Krsna conscious, one is not devotee of
Krsna, he has also provision. That provision is there. Why should we
work so hard? Our business is to save time how to become advanced in
Krsna consciousness. But people cannot understand this.
Now, how to become detached from this habit of hard working, that
is suggested here. It is said, mahat-sevam dvaram ahur vimuktes.
Mahat-seva, saintly persons, if you associate with them, if you serve
them, try to serve them, that practice is still in India.
this custom is prevalent in India, as soon as somebody sees a sannyasi
has come in a temple, somebody from the village, not somebody, but
many will come, "Sir, you can take your lunch at my place." So there
is no scarcity. Many people will come to invite you still. Therefore
many pseudo or phony swamis, they have taken this profession because
there is no difficulty getting food. So, mahat-seva. The... What is
the idea? The idea is the grhasthas, they know that "We are simply
engaged in the matter of sense gratification. If we invite some
saintly person at home, if he eats at my place, then, we commit so
many sinful activities, we'll be saved." This is the process.
Therefore, a sannyasi is advised to accept prasadam in the house of a
brahmana, because a brahmana is supposed to be, become very pious. If
you take foodstuff from impious men, then that means you are taking
share of his impious activities. But a saintly person, they can
digest, but if (they) cannot digest, then you have to suffer. This is
the process. Then he has to suffer. Therefore the safety principle is
to accept luncheon in a pious family, where there is Vaisnava family
or brahmana family. Not that anywhere we can accept cooked food.
Sometimes we have to do it, but that is against principle. We should
not accept food anywhere and everywhere, unless he is pious.
What is that sound? Nayam deho deha-bhajam nrloke kastan kaman
arhate vid-bhujam ye. This daytime, or nighttime, we work so hard, but
what is the aim. Aim is to satisfy senses. Ask these people all over
the world, especially in the western country. They are making so many
plans. Yesterday, when we were coming by the plane, the whole two
hours one man was working, making some calculation. So everybody is
busy, very, very busy, but if you ask him, "Why you are working so
hard? What is the aim?" The aim, he has nothing to say except sense
gratification, that's all. He has no more aim. He may think that "I
have got a big family, I have to maintain them," or "I have got so
much responsibility." But what is that? That is simply sense
gratification. Even we manufacture so many "isms", philanthropism,
humanitarianism, nationalism, socialism, so many. But what are these
"isms"? That is also sense gratification. I satisfy my senses. I want
to see that the senses of my brothers, senses of my sisters, senses of
my friends, or senses of my society people, or my nation, countrymen,
they are satisfied. The business is sense gratification. Just like in
our country we got Mahatma Gandhi. So he started, he is supposed to be
father of the nation. There are many leaders in different countries.
But if we, I mean to, take account of their business, it is sense
gratification, that's all. Extended sense gratification. These are
just like Marx, what is his name, full name?
Devotee: Karl Marx.
Prabhupada: Karl Marx. He is thinking how the laborer, the worker,
their senses will be gratified. That is his philosophy. Is it not?
Prabhupada: He's thinking that the capitalist, they are satisfying
only their senses in luxuriously, why not the laborers who are
actually working. That is his philosophy. The central point is sense
gratification. Just try to understand. The whole world is busy in
different labels, but the central point is sense gratification. That's
all. Is anybody has anything to say against this, here present? But
here Rsabhadeva says nrloke kastan kaman arhate, na arhate. Na ayam
deho deha-bhajam nrloke kastan kaman arhate vid-bhujam ye. Such kind
of hard work, it is done by the dogs and hogs also. So does it mean
that we shall have to work, we have got this human form of body, and
we have to work just like dogs and hogs. Actually they're doing so.
Nothing more than that. The dogs and hogs, they're busy all day and
night for the same thing: how to eat, how to sleep, how to have sex
life, how to defend. The man is also working in the same way, under
different label only. Nationalism, socialism, this "ism" that "ism",
but the action of the dog and hog and the human society, so-called
civilized, the point is the same. So Rsabhadeva says that the dogs and
hogs they are working so hard for sense gratification, but this human
form of body is not meant for that. It is for different path.
They are so callous, just like animal. They cannot think that there
is possibility of not being slaughtered. When they are taken in the
slaughter house, they agree to go because they know there is no other
way. We have been made, meant for being slaughtered. Actually that is
the position. The poor animals, they have no power to protest, neither
combinedly they can give you fighting, to the human being. You will
see one hundred cows are being driven by one boy or one man. They are
so helpless. If they combine, with their horns they can immediately
kill that man, but they have no intelligence. They do not know how to
fight. Sometimes they fight, but this is position of the rascals and
fools. Take the example, one cow or one bull is quite strong enough to
kill ten men. He has got so much strength. But because he has no
intelligence, because he is animal, hundreds of cows and bulls are
being driven by one man to the slaughterhouse.
So the, this intelligence, that is difference between the animal
and the man. If one hundred men was being taken away like that,
immediately the man who was taking to kill them, immediate, why one
hundred, ten men would have been sufficient, or two men would have
been sufficiently stronger. They would not tolerate. Similarly we are
also being driven by the laws of nature to accept these
inconveniences, repetition of birth, death, old age, and disease.
We have seen, that is, nature has got example,
everything, you can study. You'll find in Srimad-Bhagavatam that by
studying nature you can get so many instruction, perfect. So one
devotee made the nature his spiritual master, and studying nature and
getting so much information. So if you study like that, here as it is
given, the example, vid-bhujam ye. So vid-bhujam means the pigs or the
hog. They are also eating nicely, getting fat, and having sex
intercourse very freely, so does it mean that human being is also
meant for this business, like the hogs and dogs. This is the point.
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gratification, and produce more product for sense enjoyment. This is
modern civilization. All these factories... I understand that in this
country the farmers are taxed so heavily that they are forced to work
in the factory. This is a policy of the government leaders to engage
people. If anyone wants to live peacefully, save time for developing
Krsna consciousness, then the leaders of the society or the government
will not allow him to do so. This is the position.
But so far we can see, those who are busy with bolts and nuts, how
this dull brain, they can manufacture such things? That is not
possible. Actually, human life is meant for that purpose to understand
God and His potencies and to revive our old (own) relationship with
Him. That is the main business. But unfortunately, they are being
engaged in factories, in other work, to work like hogs and dogs, and
their whole energy is being spoiled. Not only spoiled, but their
characters, they are working so hard, so after working so hard they
must drink intoxication. Then after drinking, they must eat meat.
After this combination, they require sex. So in this way, they're kept
in the darkness. And here, these verses of Rsabhadeva, he says
warning. He's warning, He's speaking to his sons, but we can take the
lesson. That he says: nayam deho deha-bhajam nrloke kastan kaman
arhate vid-bhujam ye. Kaman means the necessities of life. You can get
your necessities of life very easily. By tilling the field, you get
grains. And if there is cow, you get milk. That's all. That is
sufficient. But the leaders are making plan, that if they are
satisfied with their farming work, little grains and milk, then who
will work in the factory? Therefore they are taxing so that you cannot
live even simple life--this is the position--even if you desire.
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And a Krsna conscious person, he's also sleeping. But there are different grades. The Krsna conscious person is sleeping, chanting Hare Krsna. This can be done. If you
practice this Hare Krsna, even in sleeping you'll chant Hare Krsna.
Everything depends on practice. Abhyasa-yoga-yuktena cetasa
nanya-gamina. Everything we acquire by spiritual practice.
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The qualification of this material world are two. So long you live,
it is always full of miseries. And if you try to make compromise--"All
right, I shall live here. Never mind it is miserable"--that is also
temporary. You cannot live also. You cannot... Suppose you think that
"All right, I have got this American body, American country. Never
mind there are some sufferings due to this body. I shall live here."
Oh, you cannot live. You cannot. You'll not be allowed to live also.
How long? Therefore the qualifications of this material world are two.
It is full of misery and it is temporary. But our demand is full of
pleasure and eternal life. Just opposite. But the foolish persons,
they do not understand. They think, "Oh, we are very much happy." Oh.
How we are happy? Supposing you are feeling happy. How long you'll be
happy? Any moment you'll have to give up this place. Take example,
your President Kennedy. He approached to the most happiest position,
president, young man, good wife, children. Within a second, everything
finished. Within a second. He was going on car very nicely, protected,
thinking protection, but just in a moment--finished. So that
possibility is for everyone. Even the President of America, Mr.
Kennedy, he could not save himself, in spite of so much power and
opulence. And what of us? We have to think, you see, very with cool
head that every arrangement here in this world, however nice you may
think, however you may be free, they are all temporary, all temporary,
backed up by full of misery. Unless one is not conversant with this
principle of life, he cannot actually seriously take up what is Krsna
have no other information. They are simply engaged in sense
gratification: eating, sleeping, mating, and defending. That's all.
Their business finished. They do not know anything else. If I call
some animals... Why people are not taking part in this Krsna
consciousness? Because they are animals. They are appearing with four
hands and legs, but they have been trained to become animals. So they
cannot take. But we are trying to train them from animalism to
humanism by associating with this Krsna consciousness movement. This
Caitanya Mahaprabhu's movement is to give chance to this animalistic
civilization to associate with devotees and mahatmas so that they can
also become devotee and mahatma. You associate with mahatma, you
become mahatma. You associate with debauch, you become debauch.
Practical. We have taken from the debauchery condition all our
disciples. But they are now mahatmas. It is possible. By this Krsna
consciousness movement we can turn debauch into mahatma. That is
possible. Caitanya Mahaprabhu's movement is so nice.
Then what is their dealing? Yavad-arthas ca loke. They deal as much
as required only. That's all. I have to deal with some gentleman who
is completely out of our, this Krsna consciousness movement, but I
have to deal with him. Then how I have to deal? As much as possible to
avoid him, but so far the business is concerned, all right. This is
all. Just like a businessman talks with another businessman so far
profit is concerned. That's all. No more talk. A businessman, a
lawyer, talks with his client so much... Especially in America, they
cannot waste their time. Any businessman will not waste their time.
They will talk. Similarly, a householder devotee whose only business
is to satisfy Krsna, they will deal with other persons... Other person
means those who are simply interested for maintaining this body, wife,
children, in this way. They have no other ideas. We should not have
any very intimate relationship, but we shall have to deal with them
only as far necessary. No more. That's all. We shall try to avoid them
as far as possible. But because we are living with the human society
we have to deal with such persons. So our dealings should be so far as
required. Not more than that. Then, if one lives a householder life in
this way, keeping his viewpoint only in Krsna, in the lotus feet of
Krsna, and other dealings superfluous, he is also mahatma. He's also
mahatma. Na priti-yukta yavad-arthas ca loke. Mayi ise
krta-sauhrdarthah purusartha yesam.
A householder mahatma has only one aim: how to attain the
perfectional stage of love of God. That is the aim.
…Society, friendship and love, these things are required. But a mahatma
householder, he is seeking actual friendship with Krsna. Ise
sauhrdarthah. Because he knows, "If Krsna is my friend..." Just like
Arjuna sought friendship with Krsna; Duryodhana sought friendship with
Krsna's power. Krsna divided Himself. Because it was a family warfare
between two cousin brothers, and Krsna was also related with both of
them by family relationship, so He said, "How can I take part with one
and not with the other? Then that will be partiality. So anyway, I
divide Myself into two. I am alone, one side, and in which side I
shall go, I shall not fight. I shall not touch even a weapon. And the
other side, all My soldiers." Krsna had many soldiers. So Duryodhana
thought that "I shall take Krsna's soldiers," and Arjuna thought, "I
shall take Krsna only, even He does not fight."
So this is the determination of mahatmas, that they want simply
Krsna's friendship. Mayi sauhrdarthah.
ye va mayise krta-sauhrdartha
na priti-yukta yavad-arthas ca loke
Yavad-arthas ca loke, just to deal with other persons as much as
necessary, not more than that. But to keep friendship with devotees,
that is necessary. Not that I shall not intimately mix, intermingle
with the devotees. That is required. A devotee has got four business:
isvare priti, love for God, Krsna; friendship with devotees; and
kindness to the neophyte; and rejection to the nondevotees. These four
principles. A devotee's only lovable object is Krsna. His only friend
is devotee, another devotee.
If one person can understand this Krsna consciousness
science, in future there is hope that he can make many other persons
to this knowledge of Krsna consciousness. Although it is very
difficult. In Bhagavad-gita it is said, manusyanam sahasresu. But if
you can deliver even one man in your life, then you'll be doing a
great service for Krsna. It is not required that you have to deliver
hundreds and hundreds of men, so-called. No. If you can train only one
man, that's a great service to Krsna. You saved one man from the
clutches of maya. It is so nice thing. So do it peacefully, and as far
as possible. People may accept or not accept, but we shall do our
duty. That's all.
eight..., at least two. That is the process. And so far mixing with
other people, that I have already explained just now, that to talk
with a person is not mixing. You see? Mixing means, intimate mixing,
there are six symptoms. When you eat, when you call him to eat, when
you give, when you take, when you talk your heart, when you hear his
heart. These are called intimate mixing. Otherwise, simply talking or
dealing, that is not mixing. That is not mixing. So you can mix with
ordinary people in that way. As far as your business is concerned, as
it is necessary, but not intimately. And do your own business,
chanting, and following the rules and regulations. That's all. It is
simple thing. Just like doctors. They also mix with infected persons,
but they do not become infected. You see. So preaching is like that.
Unless you preach among the fallen souls, then where is the question
of preaching? So you should not become fallen. (laughs) You should
deliver the fallen. That should be your strength. But if you are less
powerful, then you will become fallen.
So long we are in this material platform, bodily concept of life,
then there will be distinction: "I am Indian," "You are American,"
"You are Englishman," "You are this," "...that," so many things, so
many designations. Therefore, if you want to rise up to the platform
of spiritual realization, then the formula is sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam.
Sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam tat-paratvena nirmalam. That is the beginning.
That means beginning is the brahma-bhuta platform. Brahma-bhuta...
Same thing. It is, Narada-pancaratra, sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam, and
brahma-bhutah prasannatma, Bhagavad-gita, the same thing. Wherever you
find the Vedic literature, the same thing. Therefore it is authority.
There is no contradiction. In the material platform you write one
book, I write one book, then I disagree with you, and you disagree
with me. That is material platform. But in the spiritual platform,
there is self-realized platform. There is no mistake, there is no
illusion, there is no imperfect senses and there is no cheating. That
is spiritual platform. So the Bhagavad-gita says, brahma-bhutah
prasannatma na socati na kanksati. …
…but He is supreme and we are subordinate. That is the difference. Eko
yo bahunam vidadhati kaman. This is our position. This is
self-realization. When you understand this, that "Krsna, or the
Supreme Lord, or God, whatever you say, He's the whole spirit soul,
and we are fragmental portion of that spirit soul, and He's the
maintainer; we are maintained. He is the predominator; we are
predominated," So this is first realization. This is called
brahma-bhuta. And if you make more advance in brahma-bhuta stage, then
maybe after many births you can understand what is Krsna. That is the,
ver... Bahunam janmanam ante. Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita, bahunam
janmanam ante jnanavan mam prapadyate. When one is perfectly jnanavan,
wise, then his business is vasudevah sarvam iti sa mahatma
sudurlabhah. Then he can understand that Vasudeva, the son of
Vasudeva, Krsna, is everything. That realization required. That is the
perfection of Krsna consciousness.
Acyutananda: So what made the soul take birth in the first place?
Prabhupada: In the first place?
Acyutananda: What is the first birth? What is the cause of the first
Prabhupada: Yes. That is stated in the Prema-vivarta:
krsna-bahirmukha hana bhoga vancha kare
nikata-stha maya tare japatiya dhare
As soon as... We are eternal servant of Krsna. As soon as we want to
become master, that is the beginning of our first birth in the
material world. We have got independence. Because, Krsna says,
mamaivamso jiva bhutah--we are part and parcel of Krsna--so Krsna has
got full independence, but we are minute; therefore we have got minute
independence. Our business is to serve Krsna, but as soon as we give
up this idea, we want to become master. That is the beginning of our
give you production enough for your satisfaction. Now I've seen in
your country so much land is lying vacant. Why it is not being
produced? Because you do not know how to derive all benefits from
earth. That you do not know. Therefore people are in scarcity. There
is no question of scarcity. Krsna has given everything. Purnam idam
purnam adah purnat purnam... There cannot be anything imperfect which
is created by God. Everything is perfect. But if we become godless,
the supply will be crippled. That is the secret we do not know. These
things we have to learn from sastra. As soon as people will become
demonic, nature will restrict supply. "Now you become demonic. That's
So this is going on. Therefore it is recommended mahat-sevam dvaram
ahur vimuktes, if you want to become free from all anxieties. First of
all this material world means anxiety. We are put... We are part and
parcel of Krsna. Why we are sent to this material world? Iccha-dvesa
sammutthena, sarge yanti parantapa, because we wanted to enjoy life
independent of God, or Krsna. This is the disease. We are not
independent. If there is no rain and there is no food grain, what your
independence will do? No. Therefore Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita,
annad bhavanti bhutani, very practical. That if you want to be happy,
either animal or man, bhutani, then you produce anna, food grains
sumptuously. Annad bhavanti bhutani parjanyad anna-sambhavah. And
there must be sufficient rain for producing sufficient food grains.
Yajnad bhavanti parjanyah, and you perform yajna, there will be
regular rainfall. Yajnah-karma samudbhavam. Who is following this
principle? Yajnah-karma samudbhavam. Krsna never says that factories,
by factories bhavanti bhutani. Annad bhavanti bhutani, He says this is
practical. We are not interested how to produce anna. We are now
interested how to produce tire tubes. So eat tire tube.
So this is going on. Take Krsna's instruction as it is. You'll be
happy. This is Krsna consciousness movement. It is not a bogus thing,
it is very scientific, authorized. Take it very seriously, especially
those who are born Indians. They've got the advantage. Don't be
misled. Thank you very much. So any questions?
So this baivik-yajna (?) is permitted in the..., prohibited in this
Kali-yuga because they are not properly performed. It is not possible.
Just like our Sriman Pittieji was searching after a brahmana to recite
the Ramayana, Sundarakanda. He's not getting a proper brahmana. That
is the difficulty. How you can perform yajna? There is no yajnic
brahmana at the present moment. Therefore the yajna to be performed at
this moment in this Kali-yuga is yajnaih sankirtana-prayaih yajanti hi
su-medhasah. Su-medhasah means with good brain substance. Those who
have no brain substance, they are called alpa-medhasah. That is also
stated in the Bhagavad-gita, tad bhavati alpa-medhasah. Alpa-medhasah
means there is no brain substance--filled up with cow dung. So one
should be su-medhasah. Su-medhasah, nice brain substance. So those who
are su-medhasah means with good brain substance, they perform yajnair
sankirtanair by sankirtana yajna, Hare Krsna. Just see the effect of
Hare Krsna mantra. This yajna being performed all over the world. How
quickly they are capturing Krsna consciousness. Just see the effect
practically. Therefore those who are intelligent, having good brain
substance, they should perform yajna sankirtana, yajnaih..., and
worship Lord Caitanya.
This is the... The six Gosvamis of Vrndavana, they lived in Vrndavana
by the order... The present Vrndavana, holy place, was made by Rupa
Gosvami and Sanatana Gosvami. These two brothers, they were ministers
in the government of Nawab Hussain Shah. Practically they became
Muhammadans; their name were changed. Because in those days the
brahmana community was very strict. Any brahmana accepting service,
he'll be immediately excommunicated: "No, you are not brahmana."
Brahmana's business is not to serve others. Brahma-karma svabhava-jam.
They should remain... Everyone was independent. Brahmana independent,
ksatriya independent, vaisya independent. Simply sudra's dependent
brahmacari. There are many saintly persons, they are akhanda
brahmacari, or avala (?) brahmacari. They avoid. It is not only for
men; it is meant for woman also, because here we are dressed like men
and women. Otherwise the mentality is manly, to enjoy, purusa. Purusa
means who wants to enjoy, and yosit means enjoy. So our relationship
in this material world, that either in the dress of woman or man, the
mentality is purusa, how to enjoy. The mentality is purusa.
So when we give up this mentality, enjoyer... Because we are not
actually enjoyer. Enjoyer is Krsna.
Acyutananda: (reading question) In the Vedas the maha-mantra is
repeated Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. Hare Krsna, Hare
Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare. What is the significance of changing
Prabhupada: There is no change of order. If you like you can begin
with Hare Rama. There is no harm.
Prabhupada: Siva is dahi and Krsna is milk. Dahi, the preparation of
dahi that you take milk, pure milk, and mix it with little sour thing,
then it becomes dahi. Similarly, Krsna is pure spirit, and when this
pure spirit is mixed up with maya, that is Siva. Lord Siva is the
maya-adipati. There are many narrations. This was once inquired by
Yudhisthira Maharaja that Lord Siva, he appears to be like a beggar.
He does not possess even a house. He lives underneath a tree. And the
devotee of Siva becomes very rich, opulent materially, although he's a
beggar, whereas Visnu is laksmi-pati, vaikuntha-pati, and the
Vaisnavas become beggar. Just opposite. By worshiping the beggar one
becomes rich, and by worshiping the rich one becomes beggar. What is
this contradiction? So this is answered by Krsna, yasyaham anugrhnami
harisye tad-dhanam sanaih, "My first benediction to my devotee is that
I take away all his riches. That's all. Then when he becomes helpless,
he becomes firmly convinced and he has no other shelter." Then
automatically he takes shelter of Krsna, what Krsna demands,
sarva-dharman parityajya mam. When he has no other help, he fully
surrenders to Krsna. That is Krsna's special mercy. And so far Lord
Siva is concerned, he is the husband of mother Durga, and Durga is the
supreme material power, srsti-sthiti-pralaya sadhana-saktir eka
chayeva yasya bhuvanani vibharti durga. So he gets all material
benediction, and Vaisnava, instead of material benediction, he gets
all spiritual benediction. That is the difference.
So this material energy is... Every energy is woman. The spiritual
energy is also woman, material energy is woman. The material energy is
tamo, darkness, and the other energy is the light. Therefore Vedic
injunction is tamasi ma jyotir gamah. Don't remain under the darkness
material energy. In the Candi, those who have read Candi, ya devi
sarva-bhutanam nidra-rupena samasthitah. The material energy's
business is to keep us in slumber without any pure knowledge. This is
material energy. So if we keep ourself within the material energy,
that will lead us more and more in the darkest region of hellish
condition of life. Tamo-dvaram yositam sangi-sangam. Those who are too
much materially affected, to associate with such person means you
remain within the material energy. And if you associate with persons
who are great souls, who have taken the shelter of spiritual energy,
your path of liberation will be open. This is the purport. Mahat-sevam
dvaram ahur vimuktes tamo-dvaram yositam sangi-sangam mahantas te
thinking, "I am this Indian," "I am American," "I am this," "I am
that." But what mahatma thinking? He's thinking, "I am servant of
Krsna. I am not servant of these petty things. I am servant of Krsna,
Parabrahman." Gopi-bhartur pada-kamalayor dasa-dasanudasa. That is
mahat. "I am a servant of Krsna's servant, servant, servants, hundred
times servant." The lower my position is servant, then I am great
mahatma. Ordinarly they think mahatma, that "I am on the top, on the
topmost platform." That is not maha