BY: GADADHAR DASA
I would like to thank H.H. Bhakti Vikasa Swami for writing his article, “Shameless Ritvikites” and asking them to give their reply to DOR. I do not have an answer for DOR, but I have some thoughts and questions for Bhakti Vikasa Swami and other ISKCON Leaders. I hope you will answer them.
(1) Thoughts and Questions regarding Guru Rubber Stamping Factory:
(a) Where does Sastra say that a group of GBCs can rubber-stamp Gurus?
(b) Where does HDG Srila Prabhupada say that GBC can rubber-stamp Gurus?
(c) In a conversation of April 22, 1977 in regard to rubber-stamping Gurus, HDG Srila Prabhupada says “you can cheat but it will not be effective”. Why ignore the prophetic words of HDG Srila Prabhupada?
(d) If sastra approves such system then why is there a great deal of turmoil and destruction?
(e) By now more than 40 self-proclaimed and rubber-stamped fly-by-night glow worm Gurus have come and gone, and untold damage to the devotees and the institution has been done by this concocted Guru Rubber Stamping Factory.
(f) This concocted system has been going on for the last 26 years. If I had taken initiation from the first fallen Guru, then from next fallen Guru, and so on, then by now I would have been initiated 40 plus times. Think of that.
(g) Think of how many fallen Gurus are there in ISKCON now because the GBC refuses to expose them, as they covered up for years with Balabhadra, Umapati, Prabhavisnu, and many others.
(h) You are also a product of this concocted Guru Rubber Stamping Factory.
(i) So judge by the results and say who is honest and shameless?
(2) Let us see what the GBC practices in regard to Guru-tattva
(a) GBC practices “Guru Rubber-stamping”.
(b) GBC Practices concepts like “Suspended Guru”, “Rectified Guru”, “Retired Guru”, etc.
(c) GBC Practices re-initiation or ‘take shelter of senior devotees and Srila Prabhupada’.
As more Gurus started falling down their mantra changed to “take Re-initiation or take shelter of Senior Devotees and HDG Srila Prabhupada” – as you like – sounds like the GBC body is so merciful and encouraging. But what does this “take re-initiation or take shelter of senior devotees and HDG Srila Prabhupada” mean?
It means two contradictory things – “you need a new Guru” or “you don’t need a new Guru”. How can this be true? The GBC does not tell you the real fact that you have no Guru and you need to take re-initiation.
Furthermore, a disciple of a fallen Guru who does not take re-initiation continues to think that his initiation is valid, continues to use his name given by his fallen Guru and others call him by that name as well, and he may even continue to worship his fallen Guru.
Thus the devotee is encouraged to pretend that his initiation is valid and he is in parampara and he should not be concerned whether his Guru is in parampara or not. This is the worst form of cheating perpetuated by GBC and ISKCON leaders.
(d) GBC Practices valid and invalid initiations – another form of GBC cheating.
In the case of recently exposed falldowns of Umapati Swami (kicked out by GBC) and Prabhavisnu Swami (fallen and walked away despite all GBC’s attempts to cover-up his falldown and keep him in their gang), the GBC has pulled out some magical tricks that certain initiations given by these two Swamis before a certain date are valid and others are invalid.
What that means is that:
“These Gurus are not in parampara but their disciples are in parampara if their initiation is valid as defined by GBC.
“Those whose initiations are considered invalid by GBC need to take re-initiation”. What happened to their idea of “take shelter of senior devotees and HDG Srila Prabhupada”? Sorry Guys! Take a cold shower and learn your lesson – there is cheating going on here – we are free to change our rules at any time.
This is the worst form of cheating.
(e) GBC Practices cover up, cheating, deceit, obstruction of justice, duplicity.
Before and after a Guru is exposed as a fallen soul by some devotee(s), the GBC tries to make heaven and earth one to hide his falldown, and joining their hands in glorifying that fallen soul to continue to cheat his disciples and other devotees as well. When one snake is in trouble, other snakes sing his glory and thus hide the crime and allow the criminal to disappear. This is called obstruction of justice. That is what GBC is practicing.
(3) Maharaj writes “Undoubtedly there are serious problems in the Vaisnava world today, and those concerning the role of Guru are prominent”
Maharaj, your words don’t mean anything to those who have been cheated, tortured, abused, molested, and driven away by the gang of rascal leaders – Gurus, GBCs, Sannyasis, Temple Presidents, and so-called Senior Devotees. Your words sound dismissive even though sincerely uttered – ‘Yes we have our problems but you rascal shameless Ritvikites are the major problem.’ Your words are to placate people.
(4) Here are some thoughts and questions for ISKCON Leaders. I hope HH Bhakti Vikasa Swami will give his truthful reply considering the definition of truth given by Srila Prabhupada in his purport to Bhagavad-gita 10.4:
“Satyam, truthfulness, means that facts should be presented as they are, for the benefit of others. Facts should not be misrepresented. According to social conventions, it is said that one can speak the truth only when it is palatable to others. But that is not truthfulness. The truth should be spoken in a straightforward way, so that others will understand actually what the facts are. If a man is a thief and if people are warned that he is a thief, that is truth. Although sometimes the truth is unpalatable, one should not refrain from speaking it. Truthfulness demands that the facts be presented as they are for the benefit of others. That is the definition of truth.”
We have to judge by the results. If “Selectors (GBC) are great and Selected (Gurus) are also great” and both groups of devotees (uttama-adhikaris) are doing their best, then how do you explain the following results:
(1) More than 90% of Srila Prabhupada’s disciples were driven away or left discouraged.
(2) Thousands of disciples of self-proclaimed and rubber-stamped Gurus came and have gone away.
(3) BTG distribution has gone down from ONE MILLION a MONTH in 1975 to almost nothing now.
(4) Distribution of Books, Prasadam, and Hari Nama have come to a near halt.
(5) Temples in North America, Western Europe, Australia, Latin America, and Africa have become empty or have disappeared.
(6) Child Protection Office had a list of more than 200 abusers/molesters and more than 1,000 abused/molested children, but not much has been done to abusers.
(7) More than half a dozen suspected murders. My wife’s relative’s daughter was found dead, floating in a lake at North Carolina Farm around 1994. A suspicious death. I have a copy of her last letter.
Maharaj, read this article, find the answers, and correct the situation. Be truthful.
Foxes are in Charge of the Chicken Coups
Maharaj, what do you think? Who is honest and who is shameless? Please note the magnitude of destruction.
At the end of Mahabharat, Yuddha King Yuddhisthir considered himself responsible for the destruction. Are ISKCON leaders accountable for all that they did?
Wishing You Well,
Gadadhar dasa
I would like to thank H.H. Bhakti Vikasa Swami for writing his article, “Shameless Ritvikites” and asking them to give their reply to DOR. I do not have an answer for DOR, but I have some thoughts and questions for Bhakti Vikasa Swami and other ISKCON Leaders. I hope you will answer them.
(1) Thoughts and Questions regarding Guru Rubber Stamping Factory:
(a) Where does Sastra say that a group of GBCs can rubber-stamp Gurus?
(b) Where does HDG Srila Prabhupada say that GBC can rubber-stamp Gurus?
(c) In a conversation of April 22, 1977 in regard to rubber-stamping Gurus, HDG Srila Prabhupada says “you can cheat but it will not be effective”. Why ignore the prophetic words of HDG Srila Prabhupada?
(d) If sastra approves such system then why is there a great deal of turmoil and destruction?
(e) By now more than 40 self-proclaimed and rubber-stamped fly-by-night glow worm Gurus have come and gone, and untold damage to the devotees and the institution has been done by this concocted Guru Rubber Stamping Factory.
(f) This concocted system has been going on for the last 26 years. If I had taken initiation from the first fallen Guru, then from next fallen Guru, and so on, then by now I would have been initiated 40 plus times. Think of that.
(g) Think of how many fallen Gurus are there in ISKCON now because the GBC refuses to expose them, as they covered up for years with Balabhadra, Umapati, Prabhavisnu, and many others.
(h) You are also a product of this concocted Guru Rubber Stamping Factory.
(i) So judge by the results and say who is honest and shameless?
(2) Let us see what the GBC practices in regard to Guru-tattva
(a) GBC practices “Guru Rubber-stamping”.
(b) GBC Practices concepts like “Suspended Guru”, “Rectified Guru”, “Retired Guru”, etc.
(c) GBC Practices re-initiation or ‘take shelter of senior devotees and Srila Prabhupada’.
As more Gurus started falling down their mantra changed to “take Re-initiation or take shelter of Senior Devotees and HDG Srila Prabhupada” – as you like – sounds like the GBC body is so merciful and encouraging. But what does this “take re-initiation or take shelter of senior devotees and HDG Srila Prabhupada” mean?
It means two contradictory things – “you need a new Guru” or “you don’t need a new Guru”. How can this be true? The GBC does not tell you the real fact that you have no Guru and you need to take re-initiation.
Furthermore, a disciple of a fallen Guru who does not take re-initiation continues to think that his initiation is valid, continues to use his name given by his fallen Guru and others call him by that name as well, and he may even continue to worship his fallen Guru.
Thus the devotee is encouraged to pretend that his initiation is valid and he is in parampara and he should not be concerned whether his Guru is in parampara or not. This is the worst form of cheating perpetuated by GBC and ISKCON leaders.
(d) GBC Practices valid and invalid initiations – another form of GBC cheating.
In the case of recently exposed falldowns of Umapati Swami (kicked out by GBC) and Prabhavisnu Swami (fallen and walked away despite all GBC’s attempts to cover-up his falldown and keep him in their gang), the GBC has pulled out some magical tricks that certain initiations given by these two Swamis before a certain date are valid and others are invalid.
What that means is that:
“These Gurus are not in parampara but their disciples are in parampara if their initiation is valid as defined by GBC.
“Those whose initiations are considered invalid by GBC need to take re-initiation”. What happened to their idea of “take shelter of senior devotees and HDG Srila Prabhupada”? Sorry Guys! Take a cold shower and learn your lesson – there is cheating going on here – we are free to change our rules at any time.
This is the worst form of cheating.
(e) GBC Practices cover up, cheating, deceit, obstruction of justice, duplicity.
Before and after a Guru is exposed as a fallen soul by some devotee(s), the GBC tries to make heaven and earth one to hide his falldown, and joining their hands in glorifying that fallen soul to continue to cheat his disciples and other devotees as well. When one snake is in trouble, other snakes sing his glory and thus hide the crime and allow the criminal to disappear. This is called obstruction of justice. That is what GBC is practicing.
(3) Maharaj writes “Undoubtedly there are serious problems in the Vaisnava world today, and those concerning the role of Guru are prominent”
Maharaj, your words don’t mean anything to those who have been cheated, tortured, abused, molested, and driven away by the gang of rascal leaders – Gurus, GBCs, Sannyasis, Temple Presidents, and so-called Senior Devotees. Your words sound dismissive even though sincerely uttered – ‘Yes we have our problems but you rascal shameless Ritvikites are the major problem.’ Your words are to placate people.
(4) Here are some thoughts and questions for ISKCON Leaders. I hope HH Bhakti Vikasa Swami will give his truthful reply considering the definition of truth given by Srila Prabhupada in his purport to Bhagavad-gita 10.4:
“Satyam, truthfulness, means that facts should be presented as they are, for the benefit of others. Facts should not be misrepresented. According to social conventions, it is said that one can speak the truth only when it is palatable to others. But that is not truthfulness. The truth should be spoken in a straightforward way, so that others will understand actually what the facts are. If a man is a thief and if people are warned that he is a thief, that is truth. Although sometimes the truth is unpalatable, one should not refrain from speaking it. Truthfulness demands that the facts be presented as they are for the benefit of others. That is the definition of truth.”
We have to judge by the results. If “Selectors (GBC) are great and Selected (Gurus) are also great” and both groups of devotees (uttama-adhikaris) are doing their best, then how do you explain the following results:
(1) More than 90% of Srila Prabhupada’s disciples were driven away or left discouraged.
(2) Thousands of disciples of self-proclaimed and rubber-stamped Gurus came and have gone away.
(3) BTG distribution has gone down from ONE MILLION a MONTH in 1975 to almost nothing now.
(4) Distribution of Books, Prasadam, and Hari Nama have come to a near halt.
(5) Temples in North America, Western Europe, Australia, Latin America, and Africa have become empty or have disappeared.
(6) Child Protection Office had a list of more than 200 abusers/molesters and more than 1,000 abused/molested children, but not much has been done to abusers.
(7) More than half a dozen suspected murders. My wife’s relative’s daughter was found dead, floating in a lake at North Carolina Farm around 1994. A suspicious death. I have a copy of her last letter.
Maharaj, read this article, find the answers, and correct the situation. Be truthful.
Foxes are in Charge of the Chicken Coups
Maharaj, what do you think? Who is honest and who is shameless? Please note the magnitude of destruction.
At the end of Mahabharat, Yuddha King Yuddhisthir considered himself responsible for the destruction. Are ISKCON leaders accountable for all that they did?
Wishing You Well,
Gadadhar dasa
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