Thursday, 7 February 2013

World wars caused by Urgra Karma and Money

World wars I & II caused by Urgra Karma and Money--SP


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   "Following such conclusions, the demoniac, who are lost to
themselves and who have no intelligence, engage in unbeneficial,
horrible works meant to destroy the world
Prabhupada: This industry is horrible work. Simply by tilling your
ground you get food grains, and keep some cows, you get milk--your
economic problem is solved.
Why such big, big industries? Ugra-karma.
Then? Go on.
                        kamam asritya duspuram
                       mohad grhitvasad-grahan
                       pravartante 'suci-vratah
   "The demoniac, taking shelter of insatiable lust, pride and false
prestige, and being thus illusioned, are always sworn to unclean work,
attracted by the impermanent."
Prabhupada: The big two wars of the world happened only on account of
this industry. Do you know that? The cause is the big, big industry
Germany industrial, they produce goods. They must have market. But
when they go to sell, there is no market. Britishers will not allow to
sell them. The Britisher will take, purchase from them, and stamp it
"Made in England" and sell it. And this is the cause of two big war
Therefore German declare twice war. Disaster. Therefore it is said,
jagata ahitaya.
Now on the flip side, if we DONT want Wars---
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Prabhupada: Yes. Why don't you solve? There are so many land. Come
here and grow food. Grow fruit. That is... That is the desire of
Krsna. Annad bhavanti bhutani. Produce food and ... ask, "You have to
pay this price." And you have to pay. And if you grow your own food,
there is no such question. The simple economic problem, solution, this
rascal cannot take…..

"I wish to introduce this ideal now. Then if we are successful this cheating civilization will stop. They have made these cities as hell. If people do not cooperate with them, then how will the factories run on? And, if the people are satisfied by this arrangement, then what will the communists do?"

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Prabhupada: Business means if you have got extra grains or extra
foodstuff, you can sell where there is necessity, there is want. That
is business. We are not going to open mills and factories and... No.
We are not going to do that. That is sudra business. The real business
is that you produce enough food grains, as much as possible, and you
eat and distribute. That's all. This is business. He does not require
any so high technical education. Anyone can till the ground and grow
food. Is it difficult? This is the business. The first thing is that
everyone, man and animal, especially the cows, they must be properly
fed so become very stout and strong. Cows will supply milk, and man
will work hard, without being suffered by dysentery. He must work
hard. Any capacity. Work as a teacher or work as a ksatriya, work as a
ploughman. Or work as general assistant. He must work. Everyone should
be employed. And his employment will be provided from any of these
groups, according to his capacity. Either as a brahmana, or as a
ksatriya, or as a vaisya, or as a sudra.

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Amogha: He was saying that your solution was too simple. He said that
people will not accept it because it is too simple
Prabhupada: That is his ignorance. They will say it is primitive.
That is the only solution. According to the Vedic system, you cannot use
anything which you cannot produce.
Suppose this we are using, but
according the Vedic system we should not use it because I cannot
produce it. Then the whole solution is there. Nobody will manufacture
this because there will be no customer. If I refuse this use of this
machine, thinking that "I cannot produce it; I should not use it,"
then where is the customer? The so-called industry will automatically
stop, and he has to go to the village outlying.

Upendra: The reason the original faith was placed in the scientists
was because radio, airplanes, tape recorders have been manufactured,
and people are impressed by these originally.
Prabhupada: So what is the benefit? Without radio, people were dying,
or with radio they are not living?
Upendra: They say they are living more comfortably.
Prabhupada: Nonsense comfortably... They have changed the season? Is
it comfortable? We have to take this cooling machine. What is the
practical benefit? You can say that it is comfortable. That's all
right. But that does not mean that you have moved the uncomfortable
situation. You are struggling against
. That much you can take credit.
Real benefit is not there. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita.
Janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi. Real unhappiness is this, that you are: "Why
I am struggling? I don't want death." Actually why I am taking massage
and so on, so on? So that I may not die
. So where is the scientists'
guarantee, "No, you'll not die"? Has he any...? You'll struggle only.
That's all. The scientists cannot guarantee, "No, you'll not die."
That is real guarantee. "You'll die comfortably." Hm? Die comfortably?
Now there is no appetite. Where is the scientist, assuring, "Take"?
What actual benefit they have done? They are giving some... Nothing
they have given. It is simply bluff. Things without which we could do,
such things are there. There were no motorcars. There was horse
carriage and bullock carriage. Things were going on. Not that without
this horseless motorcar society would have been vanquished. No. There
are other alternatives. Rather, they were complicated. As soon as you
ride on a car, there is anxiety, especially in your country, so many
cars. When you ride on a car, full of anxiety... At any moment there
may be accident. It is not comfortable. If you are full of anxiety
Aeroplane may be. At any moment you can die. It is your time only.
They're going in good faith: "I shall go there." But before rising to
the sky, finished, crash. So many airplane has been...
So where is the
comfort? As soon as you get on the aeroplane, you are in full anxiety
that at any moment there may be crash. Is it not? Then where is
comfort? Real comfort is without anxiety. That is real comfort.
Canakya Pandita has given, real comfort means, arni akyavad(?): "One
who is not out of home and one who has no debts,
he is happy."

Nowadays people are going out of home, and everyone is debtor to the
bank and so many... The economic machine is so made that one is put
always in debts for some so-called comforts, and he's full of anxiety.
The whole month he has to work to pay debts. (end)
Indian man: Second thing is...
Prabhupada: No, first of all you understand this. Then bring second
thing. That you have no duty
. Your only duty is to surrender to Krsna.
Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam. That is your only duty. But because
you are under the mental platform, you are creating duties
, so but
that also must be finished after certain age. That is compulsory, that
"You are very good, responsible man. All right, do your duty up to
this. No more duty. No more duty." So this "duty, no duty," this is
our creation. We are under fully control of the nature. But we have
created our mental concoction: "This is duty. This is good. This is
bad." That is our mano-dharma. Real dharma is sarva-dharman parityajya
mam ekam saranam vraja. This is real dharma. And everything is
mano-dharma, mental creation
. Therefore the Bhagavata in the beginning
it is said that dharmah projjhita-kaitavo 'tra: "This false dharma is
rejected." These are all false dharmas. Real dharma is to surrender to
Krsna. But it takes time. Therefore sat-sanga is required. But
actually real dharma is to become Krsna conscious and do everything...
Anukulyena krsnanusilanam. What Krsna wants, we must know it and do
it. And this is real dharma.

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 Just like in the prisonhouse you have to work. Eh? So
they think this working is civilization. This is avidya. So therefore
they have created more work. From early morning, five o'clock, till
ten o'clock, simply working. They do not know that "This working is
our punishment." But because ignorant, they think that "Working is
life." This is called ignorance
. He does not know, "This working is my
punishment. How to get out of this work?" No. To increase the work
more, complicate, that is civilization. This is called avidya.
Avidya-karma-samjnanya. Our tendency is not to work but get things.
Therefore he has asked that question. Because he has to get cloth by
working, therefore he asking, "Why God has not created?" That means
tendency is not to work. That is spiritual tendency
. Everything,
necessities, automatically available. That is our... Therefore as soon
as one man becomes rich, he does not work. He gets his thing by
working others. The tendency is there, to retire from work. They go to
a solitary place. They retire. They do not go out. Weekly, at least,
they want to stop worker, working.
So why this tendency? He does not
want to die. He does not want to work. This is spiritual.
Why man
should work like... Therefore real civilization is that minimize work.
Minimize work, save time, and go back to your spiritual life. That is
civilization. And this is not civilization, to get the necessities of
life, sense gratification, and work like hog and dog. That is
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   Therefore Krsna gives His instruction. He's the supreme ruler. He
gives this order: annad bhavanti bhutani: "You require food grains."
This is practical.
Who will disagree with Krsna, that "We don't
require food grains; we require bolts and nuts in the factory"? Who
will say?
This is practical. Krsna says, "Grow more food, rascal! You'll eat
and become strong." And nobody is obeying Krsna. Is it not?
Practically try to understand Bhagavad-gita and Srimad-Bhagavata. Not
by sentiment. And preach this philosophy all over the world.
   What Krsna says, that is practical. Annad bhavanti bhutani
parjanyad anna-sambhavah.
Some Conclusions--
Srila Prabhupada has given us so many instructions on how to live in this world, how to
become a devotee, how to be peaceful,how to become opulent (naturally) etc, etc.
These things all take time to process in our minds, until then finally we can act upon them. Therefore
we need to hear these things repeatedly, if we are ever to put them into practical action.
And if we can nothing else but chant Hare Krsna, then that is also very good.
And for the devotee who wants to actually do something outwardly tangible to please his spiritual master, then that means he or she must take upon his head some instruction and try to follow it and get others to do
the same.
And this instruction,(above) and its a big one, to get devotees and people in general to live a more
simplistic lifestyle, will benefit themselves immensely, and the rest of the world as well.
Nobody wants wars, nobody wants to see others starve or eat chemicalized food when
the alternative is to simply grow your own food. Such a simple answer-As Srila Prabhupada used to say-
"What is the difficulty?
Hare Krsna,
Damaghosa das


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