No More Jagai and Madhais after chanting Hare Krsna !

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Indian man (1): Swamiji, my main question is: although spiritualism is
the Absolute Truth, can we not in some way make spiritualism in such a
way, modify in such a way, as to help the common people, the masses?
Prabhupada: Yes. Yes, that we are doing.
Indian man (1): They have been steeped in ignorance for such a long
time. It will take a long time to bring them into the fold of
spiritualism.
Prabhupada: No. It has been made easy by Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu,
that "You don't commit sinful activities and chant Hare Krsna. Chant
Hare Krsna and don't commit sinful life." That's all. As sinful life,
we have given them: no illicit sex... We don't say, "No sex." No
illicit sex. No illicit sex, no meat-eating. Suppose... They are not
now eating meat. Are they unhealthy? They are known now as
"bright-faced." So no illicit sex, no meat-eating, no intoxication and
no gambling. This is avoiding sinful life. And chant Hare Krsna. Just
see the result. Just see the result, within four, five years, how they
have advanced. Not that they are Vedantist and they have studied all
the Vedas, not that. Simple thing. Have you ever come here in the
evening when they perform arati, kirtana? Just see how ecstatic it is,
simple thing. Don't commit sinful activities and chant Hare Krsna.

Bas. You become elevated. Jagai-Madhai, they were... In those days,
because they were drunkards, woman hunters, meat-eaters, they were
considered most sinful. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu delivered them by this
process. So there were two Jagai Madhais, and hundreds and thousands
Jagai-Madhai now becoming purified.

 

              papi-tapi jata chilo, hari-name uddharilo,
                       tara saksi jagai madhai

 

   Everyone wants evidence. Papi-tapi, all sinful men were delivered
simply by chanting Hare Krsna. So you may ask, "Where is the
evidence?"

                       tara saksi jagai madhai

 

   "The evidence is here, Jagai-Madhai." So not that Jagai-Madhai,
five hundred years ago. Now see at the present moment. They did not
come to me after studying all the Vedas and Vedantist. They came to
me. I asked them that "Don't commit these sinful activities and chant
Hare Krsna." That's all. Anyone can do. Even the child can do. So you

are all educated men. You study this philosophy. Try to understand,
also join. It is your duty because you are Indian. Caitanya Mahaprabhu
entrusted this mission to the Indians.

 

               bharata-bhumite manusya-janma haila yara
                janma sarthaka kari' kara para-upakara

 

   Indians are meant for doing good to others. That is Caitanya
Mahaprabhu's mission. An Indian can become perfect because there is
all the Vedic literature. Janma sarthaka kari. First of all, you
become perfect; then preach the knowledge for others' benefit. This is
Caitanya Mahaprabhu's...