Saturday, 7 September 2013

Parrot like realization

Parrot like realization-SP

Hare Krsna to all
All glories to Srila Prabhupada

Below we have a few different lecture tidbits for you --

1. If we dont get the service of Krsna, then repeated birth and death is our fate
2.for the kanistha is he says Krsna is everywhere-he must have the practical realization
otherwise it is compared to "parrot like" chanting and realization
3.the more one becomes expert in Arcana (deity worhsip) the more he becomes spiritually advanced
4.the foolish person who makes up his own path of bhakti is never successful
5.the greatest danger is when we concoct or manufature our "own" process of worship of the Lord.
6.if one does not chant within the acaryas methods of worship, this offense increases and gradually
it degrades into eventually we will have no taste for devotional service.
7.if we say I dont need to wear tilak/neck beads, etc, then we have not even begun on the spiritual path. 
8.a person who ignores the gurus orders never receives the authority to chant Hare Krsna maha mantra

Hare Krsna
Damaghosa das

761026SB.VRN -- I have got already one body which is klesada. Everyone has got
experience. No one is here who can say that "My body is very nice.
There is no klesa. There is no pains and pleasure. I am very perfect."
That is not possible. As soon as you get a material body, it must be
subjected to so many sufferings: adhyatmika, adhibautika, adhidaivika.
Tribulations there must be. Material body means klesada. Therefore the
Vedic civilization is to stop getting this material body. That is
Vedic civilization. Not that increase. That is explained in the
Bhagavad-gita. Two things are there. You must accept, you must get the
service of Krsna. Otherwise you go on in this way.
Mrtyu-samsara-vartamani. Asraddadhanan purusa dharmasyasya parantapa
mam aprapya. If you don't get Krsna, then there is no other way. There
is no other alternative. The only alternative is
mrtyu-samsara-vartmani. You get one body and again you die, again get
another body. This will go on. Rsabhadeva, boys, said, "This is not good." Na sadhu manye yata atmano 'yam asann api klesada asa dehah.
   So this culture, this education, is practically nil. Especially in
Kali-yuga, it is very regrettable. But the informations are there, the
science is there. If one is intelligent, he can take advantage of this
science, Krsna consciousness, and mold his life accordingly so that he
can stop this process of accepting a body which is klesada. Klesada.
That is the perfection of life. And that can be simply done very
easily if you simply study Krsna, if you come in this temple and see
Krsna. Very simple method. Mayy asakta-manah partha yogam yunjan
mad-asrayah. These are not our manufacture; Krsna says. You come here.
The temple is meant for this purpose: that you come, see Krsna, and be
attached to Krsna. The more you become attached to Krsna, that is
called bhakti-yoga.
Then what will be the benefit? Suppose I understand you (Krsna) very
perfectly. Then what will be the result? The result is,tyaktva deham punar janma
naiti mam eti … Simply. If you simply know Krsna, then this business, repetition of
birth and death, will stop. It is so simple thing. So we should take
advantage of it and utilize our human form of life perfectly.
   Thank you very much. (end)

751027SB.NAI                   Lectures                 
 For the kanistha-adhikari, he cannot He, like parrot, he can say, "Krsna is everywhere." He must be educated"Here is Krsna in the temple." Otherwise it is simply
blaspheme, that "Krsna is everywhere." That's a fact, but where is
your realization? Krsna is within your heart. Have you got that
realization? Isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese 'rjuna tisthati. Have you
got that realization, that Krsna is within your heart? Can you talk
with Krsna? He says, Krsna says, "I talk." Buddhi yogam-dadami tam.
Krsna gives intelligence. Krsna is giving, but have you got that
   So these are all facts, that Krsna is everywhere, Krsna is within
your heart, Krsna is within the atom. Andantara
stha-paramanu-cayantara-tham. That's a fact, but where is your
realization? Therefore you have to begin realization by arcana. That
is very essential. Then more you become expert in arcana, ye yatha mam
prapadyante, the more you become realized, then more you become
SB 4.18.5 --A foolish person who manufactures his own ways and means through
mental speculation and does not recognize the authority of the sages
who lay down unimpeachable directions is simply unsuccessful again and
again in his attempts.


   At the present moment it has become fashionable to disobey the
unimpeachable directions given by the acaryas and liberated souls of
the past. Presently people are so fallen that they cannot distinguish
between a liberated soul and a conditioned soul. A conditioned soul is
hampered by four defects: he is sure to commit mistakes, he is sure to
become illusioned, he has a tendency to cheat others, and his senses
are imperfect. Consequently we have to take direction from liberated

73-01-04.Dhr             Letter: Dhruvananda            
 From now on unless I order you do something change or in addition, go on with the
usual standard way. You manufacture ideas and then I have to waste my
time. I have given you everything already, there is no need for you to
add anything or change anything. Why you are asking these things? Who
has given you such freedom? Pujari should operate entirely under the
supervision of temple president and GBC, not independently. The
greatest danger to our movement will come when we manufacture and
create our own process for worshiping the deities. So don't ask any
more new questions, whatever is going on, follow it just to the exact
standard as I have given you, that's all.

770225r2.may    Ramesvara: Just like this Alice Coltrane. She has done her small part.
She made this record album with Govinda Jaya Jaya and Hare Krsna.
Prabhupada: That is... That will be a good thing. But when he (she)
does it properly it will be more effective, because there is... If one
does not chant in the process, then gradually it degrades. The offense
will increase. There is chance.
Brahmananda: We want to bring them to the process.
Prabhupada: Yes, that is the ultimate. That is stated by Rupa Gosvami

                         yena tena prakarena
                        manah krsne nivesayet
                       sarve vidhi-nisedha syur
                         etayor eva kinkarah

   that "Somehow or other, bring him to chant Krsna or to become
little Krsna conscious. Then, when he's little purified, then the
vidhi-nisedhah..." He's not rejecting the vidhi-nisedhah.
Vidhi-nisedhah means regulative principles. It is not rejected,
that... But when he's a little purified, this vidhi-nisedha syur
etayor eva kinkarah.
 So we must come to that point. In the beginning you
may be very liberal: "All right, chant." We do like that, and I have
done it. There is no regulation. But that does not..., that (the rules) it should
be neglected. He should be given affirmed, "By simply, whimsically
chanting this..." No, that is not.
.. The thing is that some way or other, if you are near the fire, you'll get some heat, but there is a process how to take heat.  That you cannot reject. "Because I am getting little heat, it is sufficient," that is sahajiya.

770127rc.bhu -- Prabhupada: And you must see that what you are doing, that is
according to the principle which all other sadhus and devotees do.
They have tilaka, and you say, "I have no tilaka." That is not
sadhu-marganu. Sadhu-marganugamanam. They have kanthi. You say, "I can
avoid it." That is not sadhu-marganugamanam. So, from very beginning,
if you disobey, then how you'll make progress?
Adi 7.95-96 -"I firmly believe in these words of My spiritual master, and
therefore I always chant the holy name of the Lord, alone and in the
association of devotees. That holy name of Lord Krsna sometimes causes
Me to chant and dance, and therefore I chant and dance. Please do not
think that I intentionally do it. I do it automatically. 

Purport-   A person who cannot keep his faith in the words of his spiritual master but acts independently never receives the authority to chant the holy name of the Lord

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