Prabhupāda: Yes. Wine and sex. They see from childhood. One boy, Rancor, so his father and mother divorced and he was young child. He was the first child of his mother. And the mother, he said, would daily bring a new friend. So he could understand.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: A new woman.
Prabhupāda: Not new woman, his mother, he was under the care of mother.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Oh, mother had new husbands, new boyfriends.
Prabhupāda: Daily night. And he was shocked. One of my Gauḍīya Maṭha Godbrothers, big, he became the head of this Bhag Bazaar Gauḍīya Maṭha. So his wife was debauched, and she was bringing new paramour, and the child protested.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: New?
Prabhupāda: Paramour. And the boy, he was ten years or twelve years old, he could understand: "Who is this man?" So he protested and said, "I shall tell all these things to my father." And he was killed.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: The boy was killed?
Prabhupāda: By the mother.
Hari-śauri: She murdered him?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Killed means given poison. And the father, that is, my God brother, seeing this, he also took poison. This is the end of Gauḍīya Maṭha scandal. He was also one of the trustees. This Tīrtha Mahārāja was a trustee, and another God brother and this man. In the beginning, they were made trustees. In the beginning, Prabhupāda was to undergo surgical operation. So he was a little nervous, that "I may die." So he made a scrap paper, that "In case I die, these three disciples will be trustees of the Gauḍīya Maṭha Institute." That's all. So this Kuñja Bābu kept this. There are many long histories. So one of the so-called trustees was this Vāsudeva. So he died, his end was like this.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: His son was killed, isn't it?
Prabhupāda: His wife was a regular prostitute, and she killed her child, and on this shock, he took poison and died.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: He killed himself, oh.
Prabhupāda: Naturally, he became shocked, that "This is my family life -- the wife is prostitute and son is killed. What is the value of my life?" This was his spiritual realization. Just see. (laughs) And he was made the chief, and one of the supporters was Śrīdhara Mahārāja.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Vāsudeva Śrīdhara?
Prabhupāda: No, no. He was made chief. Guru Mahārāja did not make him chief. But after his passing away, some of our God brothers (like Sridhara Maharaja) voted him chief.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: A new woman.
Prabhupāda: Not new woman, his mother, he was under the care of mother.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Oh, mother had new husbands, new boyfriends.
Prabhupāda: Daily night. And he was shocked. One of my Gauḍīya Maṭha Godbrothers, big, he became the head of this Bhag Bazaar Gauḍīya Maṭha. So his wife was debauched, and she was bringing new paramour, and the child protested.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: New?
Prabhupāda: Paramour. And the boy, he was ten years or twelve years old, he could understand: "Who is this man?" So he protested and said, "I shall tell all these things to my father." And he was killed.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: The boy was killed?
Prabhupāda: By the mother.
Hari-śauri: She murdered him?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Killed means given poison. And the father, that is, my God brother, seeing this, he also took poison. This is the end of Gauḍīya Maṭha scandal. He was also one of the trustees. This Tīrtha Mahārāja was a trustee, and another God brother and this man. In the beginning, they were made trustees. In the beginning, Prabhupāda was to undergo surgical operation. So he was a little nervous, that "I may die." So he made a scrap paper, that "In case I die, these three disciples will be trustees of the Gauḍīya Maṭha Institute." That's all. So this Kuñja Bābu kept this. There are many long histories. So one of the so-called trustees was this Vāsudeva. So he died, his end was like this.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: His son was killed, isn't it?
Prabhupāda: His wife was a regular prostitute, and she killed her child, and on this shock, he took poison and died.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: He killed himself, oh.
Prabhupāda: Naturally, he became shocked, that "This is my family life -- the wife is prostitute and son is killed. What is the value of my life?" This was his spiritual realization. Just see. (laughs) And he was made the chief, and one of the supporters was Śrīdhara Mahārāja.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Vāsudeva Śrīdhara?
Prabhupāda: No, no. He was made chief. Guru Mahārāja did not make him chief. But after his passing away, some of our God brothers (like Sridhara Maharaja) voted him chief.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Am I missing...? You had told me once, I'm not certain. Maybe I made a mistake. You said that Vāsudeva, it was known fact that he was homosex?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Ananta Vāsudeva.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Ananta Vāsudeva.
Prabhupāda: He was homosex and sex, everything.
Conversations : June 18, 1976, Toronto
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