Prabhupadanuga World: Someone has poisoned me

Saturday, 26 November 2011

Someone has poisoned me

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Prabhupada: SO THEY MAY KILL ME ALSO.

Note: Srila Prabhupada was aware of the plot to kill him in 1976. So the question is WHO is "they"?
Room Conversation, May 3, 1976, Honolulu
Prabhupada: This is our position. Gradually they will show Hare Krishna movement. In India also, although India's... They will want to crush down this movement. So this will be up to Him. Krishna or Krishna's movement, the same thing. And Krishna was attempted to be killed by Kamsa class of men and his company, the demons. So it will be there; it is already there. Don't be disappointed, because that is the meaning that it is successful. Krishna's favor is there, because Krishna and Krishna's movement is not different, nondiff..., identical. So as Krishna was attempted to be killed, many, many years before He appeared... At eighth child, if the mother produces child yearly, still ten years, eight years before His birth, the mother was to be attempted to be killed. So there may be attempt like that. And Lord Jesus Christ was killed. SO THEY MAY KILL ME ALSO.
Note: Trouble from Subordinates Juniors (disciples "they")
Room Conversations, August 11, 1977, Vrindavan
Abhirama: So I went to see the astrologer with Yasodanandana Swami, and he did more calculations on your chart.
Prabhupada: You can get on light.
Abhirama: So basically he explained when the difficult times will come, according to the planets. Then he made it very clear that beyond the planetary influence, it would be very difficult for calculations for a person in your position. For an ordinary man he can say very clearly. And he can say for you which planets will disturb, but he cannot say for sure how much they will affect, because being a saintly person, there is naturally some resistance to these influences. So he made that very clear, that you
should not think that these are final. So he said, according to your birth, the longevity shows very clearly. And then he gave a date. The longevity is eighty-one years, five months and twenty-nine days, which means February 28, 1978, six months from now. This is according to birth and stars arrangement. But on this point he made it very clear that this was from your birth, this was set, but it can change. Due to pious activities, due to the hand of Krishna, this can change. So... And then he described that during the next six months, the first week of September, Saturn will pass over Ketu, and it will agitate the influence of Ketu even more. So the first week of September the resistance will go down, will become weaker. THEN HE MENTIONED THAT THERE MAY BE SOME TROUBLE FROM..., MAYBE FINANCIAL OR MAYBE FROM JUNIORS, FROM SUBORDINATES.
Note: Srila Prabhupada KNEW he was going to be killed by "they" (disciples)
Otherwise why does he say BETTER KILL ME HERE.
Room Conversation, October 22, 1977, Vrindavan
Bhavananda: Therefore we asked you yesterday for your guidance.
Prabhupada: No, I'll guide. Don't move me to the hospital. BETTER KILL ME
HERE.
Note: It is a particularly astounding statement to be made at the time when Srila Prabhupada KNEW he was going to pass away soon. Maricha was under the order of Ravana to kill Rama (which he knew he was not capable of). Ravana would kill Maricha; if he failed to accomplish Ravana's order. So either way Maricha knew he was going to be killed. (By being killed by Rama, Maricha would be fortunate as it opened the door of liberation). Srila Prabhupada similarly KNEW he would be killed. Srila Prabhupada had the following choices:
1) to have him killed in hospital (which "they" would have done --also!)

2) to be killed by his own disciples at Krishna Balarama Temple (who were poisoning him) while hearing Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare /Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.

These were the TWO options. The option to ENGAGE his disciples in devotional service chanting the Hare Krishna maha-mantra even to the last end was what he chose in spite of ("they") their evil intent to kill him.

Note: Srila Prabhupada is talking of BEING KILLED by EITHER PARTY. Let us note that Parikrama with buffalos was danger in his state of health BUT the OTHER issue was THE POISONERS who will NOT let him go they were determined to KILL him THERE if he stayed INSIDE.

Room Conversation, November 10, 1977, Vrindavan

Prabhupada: THE RAVANA WILL KILL AND RAMA WILL KILL. BETTER TO BE KILLED BY RAMA. EH? That Maricha--if he does not go to mislead Sita, he'll be killed by Ravana; and if he goes to be killed by Rama, then it is better.
Tamala Krishna: WHO is this Prabhupada's talking about?
Note: HOY TO TAI. (It’s possible), "YE SAB FRIENDS" (THESE ALL FRIENDS),
"they" these are VERY SELECTIVE WORDS of a CAREFUL SPEECH. They are POINTING WORDS.
Conversation Mixture of English, Hindi and Bengali (9/11/77)
Srila Prabhupada: Keu bole je keu poison kore diyeche. HOY TO TAI.
Translation: Someone says that I've been poisoned. IT'S POSSIBLE.
Balaram Mishra (?): Hmm?
Kaviraja: Kya farma rahe hain?
Translation: What is he saying?
Srila Prabhupada: Koi bolta hai je koi mujhko poison kiya gaya hai.
Translation: Someone says that someone has given poison.
Kaviraja: Kisko?
Translation: To whom?
Srila Prabhupada: Mujhko.
Translation: To me.
Kaviraja: Kaun bolta hai?
Translation: Who said?
Srila Prabhupada: YE SAB FRIENDS.
Translation: These all friends
Bhakticharu: Ke boleche, Srila Prabhupada?
Translation: Who said, Srila Prabhupada?
Srila Prabhupada: Ke boleche.
Translation: They all say.
Tamal Krishna: Krishna das?
Kaviraja: Ao ko kaun poison dega? Kis liye dega?
Translation: Who would give you poison? Why would anyone do that?
Tamal Krishna: Who said that, Srila Prabhupada?
Srila Prabhupada: I do not know, but it is said.
Note: Srila Prabhupada's consciousness was not like a conditioned soul sleep
in ignorance. From this it is evident HE DID HEAR THE WHISPERS OF "they" WHO WERE POISONING HIM. Srila Prabhupada was FULLY CONSCIOUS of ALL that was going on. He could hear EVERYTHING.
Srila Prabhupada: I do not know, BUT IT IS SAID.
**IF** Srila Prabhupada was in a deep slumber of a conditioned soul - he would
have NOT heard. BUT he DID HEAR - therefore "BUT IT IS SAID". Who "they" are he does not wish to disclose DIRECTLY.
There is also a DEFINITE link between the 9th July letter to society on the order of RITVIK system. Srila Prabhupada's clear instructions are that he Srila Prabhupada is the Initiating Guru of ISKCON. This ORDER was NEVER REVOKED by Srila Prabhupada. THIS signalled warrant for his kill! Srila Prabhupada did not compromise: HE WAS** THE** GURU OF ISKCON. This was unacceptable to "they" (Srila Prabhupada murderers).
The motives of these disciples ("they", Srila Prabhupada murderers) were to somehow or other GET RID OF this July 9th 1977 directive-in order to implement their devious plan.
Now "they" who poisoned Srila Prabhupada knew and feared all devotees would
find out. So in the beginning it was HIDDEN from the majority of devotees. Why? And eventually it was the banned "ritvik" devotees who distributed thousands of this 9th July 1977 directive ALL OVER THE WORLD. "They" had to respond - no choice. Devotees ALL OVER THE WORLD FOUND OUT.
Hear this feeble excuse? "Tamal Krishna typed it out - Srila Prabhupada just
signed it."
So - Srila Prabhupada had signed MANY transactions, letters to devotees, the Incorporation of ISKCON in USA etc. **IF** July 9th 1977 letter is rejected as having been Tamal Krishna's "personal choice" - then ISKCON Incorporation, letters to devotees EVERYTHING typed by devotees and signed by Srila Prabhupada would be discarded on the same merit. See how CRAZY it looks!! Srila Prabhupada KNEW EXACTLY what he signed. Tamal Krishna's position was as a SECRETARY and Srila Prabhupada was THE BOSS. Secretary can type, design letter according to THE WISHES of THE BOSS. Secretary's position is SUBSERVIENT to the BOSS - not independent.
Why "they" had THE MOTIVE FOR MURDER OF SRILA PRABHUPADA:
1) Discarding the RITVIK system means "they" have free servants/slaves(disciples).
2) Discarding the RITVIK system means "they" have the satisfaction of worship of themselves replacing Srila Prabhupada as the Initiator.
3) Discarding the RITVIK system means "they" have the dakshina MONEY for
their own lusty desires. Free income from servant/slave (disciple).
4) Discarding the RITVIK system means "they" OWN properties, usurp temples.
5) Discarding the RITVIK system means "they" manipulate devotees.
6) Discarding the RITVIK system means "they" prevent Srila Prabhupada's
ORIGINAL BOOKS from printing/ distributing in LARGE quantities.
7) Discarding the Ritvik system means "they" and KEY men, Temple Presidents,
etc., loot exploit the ISKCON society funds
Note: "They" Srila Prabhupada murderers destination:
Ishopanishad 12
The Lord states that as soon as one reaches Him by devotional service--which is the one and only way to approach the Personality of Godhead--one attains complete freedom from the bondage of birth and death. In other words, the path of salvation from the material clutches fully depends on the principles of knowledge and detachment gained from serving the Lord. THE PSEUDO RELIGIONISTS HAVE NEITHER KNOWLEDGE NOR DETACHMENT FROM MATERIAL AFFAIRS, FOR MOST OF THEM WANT TO LIVE IN THE GOLDEN SHACKLES OF MATERIAL BONDAGE UNDER THE SHADOW OF PHILANTHROPIC ACTIVITIES DISGUISED AS RELIGIOUS PRINCIPLES. BY A FALSE DISPLAY OF RELIGIOUS SENTIMENTS, THEY PRESENT A SHOW OF DEVOTIONAL SERVICE WHILE INDULGING IN ALL SORTS OF IMMORAL ACTIVITIES. IN THIS WAY THEY PASS AS SPIRITUAL MASTERS AND DEVOTEES OF GOD. SUCH VIOLATORS OF RELIGIOUS PRINCIPLES HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE AUTHORITATIVE ACHARYAS, THE HOLY TEACHERS IN THE STRICT DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION. **THEY** IGNORE THE VEDIC INJUNCTION ACHARYOPASANA--"ONE MUST WORSHIP THE ACHARYA"—and Krishna's statement in the Bhagavad-gita (4.2) evam parampara-praptam, "This supreme science of God is received through the disciplic succession." Instead, to mislead the people in general they themselves become so-called acharyas, but they do not even follow the principles of the acharyas.
These rogues are the MOST DANGEROUS ELEMENTS IN HUMAN SOCIETY. Because there is no religious government, they escape punishment by the law of the
state. They cannot, however, escape the law of the Supreme, who has clearly declared in the Bhagavad-gita that envious demons in the garb of religious
propagandists shall be thrown into the darkest regions of hell (Bg.
16.19-20). SRI ISHOPANISAD CONFIRMS THAT THESE PSEUDO RELIGIONISTS ARE HEADING TOWARD THE MOST OBNOXIOUS PLACE IN THE UNIVERSE AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THEIR SPIRITUAL MASTER BUSINESS, WHICH THEY CONDUCT SIMPLY FOR SENSE GRATIFICATION.

Question: Just HOW MUCH poison was given IN THE NAME of MEDICINE or MIXED WITH medicine?

Room Conversation, October 28, 1977, Vrindavan

Bhakticharu: Pressure is good. When Dr. Ghosh came, that other Dr. Ghosh
came... (Hindi) ...pressure, 180 and 80. (Hindi) He's saying that in this
condition, Prabhupada can't take makara-dhvaja. THAT ANY MEDICINE THAT
CONTAINS MERCURY AND ARSENIC IS POISON TO HIM.
Bhavananda: That's what Prabhupada said.
Tamala Krishna: That is a fact. HE FOUND THAT TO BE TRUE

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Note: Sceptics may disagree but Srila Prabhupada gives here HIS verdict from HIS OWN MOUTH.

WHY does Srila Prabhupada say YES?

Srila Prabhupada: YES

Room Conversation, October 31, 1977, Vrindavan

Tamala Krishna: We certainly have... We might as well try. We've tried everyone else.
Prabhupada: Hm.
Tamala Krishna: So let us try.
Bhavananda: He did agree with YOUR OWN DIAGNOSIS, PRABHUPADA. HE SAID MAKARADHVAJA AT THIS POINT WOULD BE POISON AND TODAY YOU SAID THAT IT WAS POISON.
Prabhupada: YES.
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Prabhupada: ...taking poison. The body is already finished.
Upendra: What is that?
Tamala Krishna: HE SAID, "IF YOU THINK I'M TAKING POISON, that the body is
already finished."
Prabhupada: So dead body, you take poison or ambrosia, it is the same. Blind man, night or day--the same thing. Rather, if you depend on miracle, pray to Krishna that "He may survive.
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Tamal Krishna KNEW that ARSENIC was POISON. HOW MUCH QUANTITY did he ADD to the medicine?
Lectures, November 29, 1968, Los Angeles
Prabhupada: Now, "pervades the body," that is consciousness. The soul is very small, but... Just like you take one grain of, what is called, poison? Snake poison? Arsenic? Poison called? What is called? Yes, venom poison.
Tamala Krishna: ARSENIC IS POISON.
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WHY is it RELEVANT to bring in the “KILL” by either side? Especially at THIS TIME when Prabhupada KNEW he was going to pass away.

Room Conversation, November 10, 1977, Vrindavan

Note: TKG wanted to KNOW if Srila Prabhupada had told them ABOUT HIS POISONING - because PERHAPS ***THIS** was the ONLY chance Srila Prabhupada had to inform OUTSIDE WORLD what was ACTUALLY taking place.

AND he was speaking in HINDI so this "FRIENDS" will not hear it.

Note: Srila Prabhupada says don't torture me and put to death. WHY say this UNLESS IT IS HAPPENING!!!
Room Conversation, November 3, 1977, Vrindavan
Prabhupada: That is my only request, that at the last stage don't torture me
and put to death. So I am not eating anything, and if we chant, by batches
chant, I'll hear. (Bengali)
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Room Conversation, November 8, 1977, Vrindavan
Prabhupada: (Hindi--mentions word "poison")
Kaviraja: (Hindi)
Devotee: SOMEONE GAVE HIM POISON HERE.
Kaviraja: (Hindi long explanation)
Tamala Krishna: PRABHUPADA WAS THINKING THAT SOMEONE HAD POISONED HIM.
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Room Conversation, October 18, 1977, Vrindavan

Tamala Krishna: I mean we have to go on some basis, Srila Prabhupada. And from
the... What we can see, we can see. Whatever you ate turned into stool. Now, that is a good sign. That's a good sign. If it didn't come out of its own accord, that's due to less strength. And by drinking a lot yesterday, this morning the urine becomes clear, and by taking those medicines. These are actual, factual things we can observe. One thing is, you don't feel able to sleep. That's a bad thing. And the other thing is your being so weak condition that your willpower is weakened. Your determination is weakened. So far as those two problems go, for sleeping I know that something can
be given to help you to sleep. So far willpower, if you allow us to take care of you, then I think that should be the willpower. OF COURSE, I MEAN WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET THEM DO ANYTHING BAD. I MEAN I'M NOT GOING TO LET ANYBODY TAKE YOU TO THE HOSPITAL. I WOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT IN LONDON , EXCEPT THAT YOU YOURSELF SAID WE SHOULD DO IT. Otherwise your instructions told to everybody, "Don't let them take me to a hospital." So we're not thinking like that. Neither I'm going to let anybody put any, take any blood specimen or any of those things. It's not required. These things which they're giving
you are not... The only harmful effect is that you cannot sleep. But that can be given. To help you sleep can be helped. Otherwise this Kaviraja's medicine, it may be less agitating to take, but does it actually work? Now for nearly half a day you have drank only one time a little bit. But you want us to take care of you and help you, then I think you should accept these... I mean they're very reasonable arguments.
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Note: Hospital means Poison SYMPTOMS would SHOW.
Room Conversation, November 3, 1977, Vrindavan
Tamala Krishna: I said supposing someone threatens us with our life, that "We
will kill you if you don't let us take your Guru Maharaja to the hospital," still, we will not let them take you. Your order is our business to follow, even at the risk of our life. SO WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE YOU TO THE HOSPITAL UNDER ANY CONDITION. Neither... Not only is it your order, but we also see absolutely no benefit from these hospitals. Your order is sufficient, but apart from that, also, from our own limited intelligence, we also see that the hospitals are condemned. These doctors are blind, these allopathic doctors.

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The ACHARYA of the GREAT institution does NOT make frivolous comments like a mundaner. His instructions are GUIDANCE for humanity.

Room Conversation, October 22, 1977, Vrindavan
Bhavananda: Therefore we asked you yesterday for your guidance.
Prabhupada: No, I'll guide. Don't move me to the hospital. BETTER KILL ME
HERE.

If one is AT ALL SERIOUS in knowing the TRUTH then the least they have to go thru all this PLUS the CDs whispers. Tamal Krishna Goswami's voice is CLEAR "poison is going down" EVEN the most uneducated person who is SINCERE will accept WHERE is the POISON going down - they have made Srila Prabhupada DRINK IT and it is GOING DOWN HIS THROAT. There were few voices captured. 1) Tamal Krishna Goswami 2) Bhavananda who was there when he RESPONDED: HUH. There was one voice INDIAN who mentioned poison in the background. 3) There was a voice that said Jaya it could be Jayapataka or Jayadwaita or BOTH. 4) there was a apparently Indian voice that said “Pyabhaichary poison is put in the Milk.”

Letter to: Jayadvaita Los Angeles, 30 January, 1970, Boston

My Dear Jayadvaita,

Please accept my blessings. I beg to acknowledge receipt of your letter dated 28 January, 1970.

I am very glad to learn that Nectar of Devotion is now completed. You have inquired about the quality number 63 of Krishna that He is surrounded by loving devotees can be explained as follows: When we speak of Krishna, Krishna is not alone. Krishna means His name, His qualities, His fame, His friends, His paraphernalia, His entourage--everything included. Just like when we speak of a king, it is to be understood that he is surrounded by ministers, secretaries, military commanders and many other people. Krishna is not impersonal, so in His Vrindavan Lila especially, He is always surrounded by the Gopis, cowherd boys, His father, His mother and all the inhabitants of Vrindavan.

Regarding your second question, Pyabhaichary, you have got 31 only out of 33. I think some of the brackets are not counted. So if the parentheses are removed from "intoxication" and "impotency" and they are also counted, the total of symptoms will come to 33. Simply add commas after the preceding symptoms namely "prestige" and "impudence" respectively.

Regarding the third point: all kinds of mellow includes servitude. Therefore a mixture of servitude and parenthood is not incompatible. So Ugrasena's mellow is correctly written as mixed with servitude and parental affection and the statement in part IV should be corrected to state that a mixture of parenthood and servitude is a compatible one.

I hope this will meet you in good health.

Your ever well-wisher,
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami
ACBS:db

A point to note: Jayapataka was always in the company of Tamala Krishna Goswami and Bhavananda. AND if TKG was involved we KNOW Bhavananda gave himself away THEN Jayapataka MUST be there. no? MOTIVE is there.

The following site has whispers of the poison givers:

http://hearfromsrilaprabhupada.info/

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Subj: Hoy to tai.
Date: 11/18/99 8:20:00 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: mahesh.r@virgin.net (Mahesh Raja)
Reply-to: mahesh.r@virgin.net (Mahesh Raja)
To: adri@cwcom.net (Adridharan das)
Dear Adridharana Dasa Prabhu
All Glories to Srila Prabhupada! Please accept my humble obeisances.

The GBC's "Official Investigation" on the poison issue is more like asking a bunch of foxes to go in and count the number of chickens in a closed chicken filled compact hatch. And the "official" response will be: there is NONE! (All evidence hidden in the stomach).
It’s an open secret for their fat pay packets and money earning schemes the
GBC have lied and evaded consistently to the society about implementing the
July 9th 1977 final order (signed PERSONALLY by His Divine Grace Srila
Prabhupada) to implement the Ritvik System. What more proof do you require
about their "genuine" sincerity? They only launched "official Investigation" when the subject could not be hidden anymore. So let’s not be naive.
You wrote: "Naturally, we can only rely on the actual words Srila Prabhupada spoke on this issue to determine whether he himself believed that he was deliberately poisoned". UNLESS Srila Prabhupada actually believed this WHY does he CONFIRM: Hoy to tai (It’s possible).
Srila Prabhupada: Keu bole je keu poison kore diyeche. Hoy to tai.
Translation: Someone says that I've been poisoned. It's possible.
We have to understand that there are two issues:
1) Srila Prabhupada is a Vaishnava of the highest calibre and therefore NOT
going to PROTEST at this barbaric brutal act committed PERSONALLY against him.
2)As an acharya he IS STILL DUTY BOUND to give instructions to the society
what exactly happened i.e. on HOW he was poisoned WITHOUT himself protesting that he HAS been poisoned.
Thus Srila Prabhupada FULFILLS the above two contradictory points by saying: Keu bole (Someone says). Srila Prabhupada is not going to utter even a slight protest at this most heinous activity. This is the QUALITY of a VAISHNAVA. If "someone says" something which Srila Prabhupada ALREADY KNEW was happening what is the difference when Srila Prabhupada simply REPEATS ("I've been poisoned") this is an ACKNOWLEDGEMENT or CONFIRMATION even if the words are the SAME. This shows Srila Prabhupada as an EXPERT who did NOT transgress the Vaishnava etiquette. Neither did Srila Prabhupada fail to disclose that he has been poisoned SIMULTANEOUSLY.
So he SIMULTANEOUSLY said the words "I've been poisoned" and did not say
it. Srila Prabhupada next says: Hoy to tai (It's possible). We have to UNDERSTAND that Srila Prabhupada is ADMITTING by ACKNOWLEDGING. Srila Prabhupada is SAYING Hoy to tai. IT'S POSSIBLE!!!! What Srila Prabhupada Is TELLING US is in the language of inconceivable SIMULTANEOUS ONENESS and DIFFERENCE that he HAS been poisoned.
Thus Srila Prabhupada is ACTUALLY SPEAKING THE WORDS:
Srila Prabhupada: Keu bole je keu poison kore diyeche. Hoy to tai.
Translation: Someone says that I've been poisoned. It's possible.
Based on
1) here are a few examples on how a Vaishnava does not PERSONALLY protest:
Srimad Bhagavatam 6.1.16
When a devotee is put into hellish conditions, he accepts them as Krishna's
mercy: tat te 'nukampam susamiksamanah (Bhag. 10.14.8). He does NOT PROTEST , "Oh, I am such a great devotee of Krishna. Why have I been put into this misery?" Instead he thinks, "This is Krishna's mercy."
Lectures, July 18, 1973, London
This is the qualification of sadhu. Sadhu is TITIKSAVA, tolerates all kinds of miserable conditions. He is sadhu. Because this is a place of miserable condition. A sadhu learns how to tolerate. Sadhu is never disturbed. Yasmin sthito gurunapi duhkhena na vicalyate. A sadhu, who has got the shelter of Krishna, if he is placed in the severest type of dangerous condition, he is never disturbed. Just like Prahlada Maharaja, his father was putting him in so many dangerous conditions, even he was supplying with poison. He knew that "My father has given me poison to drink. All right, let me drink. If Krishna likes, He will save me. I am now put into such dangerous position. I have to drink. Father is giving poison. Who can check?" And such a big powerful Hiranyakashipu. The mother cried, requested... He forced the
mother, Prahlada's mother, "Give your son this poison." So she begged so much, but he was a rascal demon. "NO, YOU MUST GIVE." SO THE MOTHER KNEW, THE SON KNEW THAT THE RASCAL FATHER IS GIVING THIS POISON. WHAT CAN HE DO, A SMALL CHILD? "ALL RIGHT, LET ME DRINK." GURUNAPI DUHKHENA NA VICALYATE. HE IS NOT AGITATING. "ALL RIGHT, IF KRISHNA LIKES, I WILL LIVE." THIS IS THE POSITION OF SADHU. HE IS NOT DISTURBED. TITIKSAVAH. IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES, HE IS TOLERANT. That is sadhu. Sadhu does not become disturbed. Titiksavah. At the same time, karunikah. He is himself disturbed, but he is merciful to others.
Just like Jesus Christ. He is being CRUCIFIED, and still he is merciful:
"God, these people do not know what they are doing. Please excuse them."
This is sadhu.
Lectures, March 16, 1976, Mayapur
If you want to chant Hare Krishna mantra, then you have to take this principle, trnad api sunicena. You have to become humbler than the grass. Grass, it is lying on the street. Everyone is trampling down. Never protests. In the lawn you are... Everyone is trampling the grass. There is no protest. Taror api sahisnuna. AND TOLERANT THAN THE TREE. THE TREE IS GIVING US SO MUCH HELP. IT IS GIVING US FRUIT, FLOWER, LEAVES, AND WHEN THERE IS SCORCHING HEAT, SHELTER ALSO. SIT DOWN UNDERNEATH. SO BENEFICIAL,
STILL, WE CUT. AS SOON AS I LIKE, I CUT IT DOWN. BUT THERE IS NO PROTEST.
The tree does not say, "I have given you so much help, and you are cutting me?" No. Tolerant. Yes. Therefore Chaitanya Mahaprabhu has selected, taror api sahisnuna. And amanina manadena. For oneself one should not expect any respectful position, but he, the devotee, should offer all respect to anyone. Amanina manadena kirtaniyah sada harih. If we acquire this qualification, then we can chant Hare Krishna maha-mantra without any disturbance. This is the qualification.
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NOTE: Here Srila Prabhupada is confirming having heard from "friends" "THEY
all say" BUT with FURTHER pressure from Tamal Krishna he says "I do not
know, but it is said". We all know about the WHISPERS we heard: here is the
CONFIRMATION Srila Prabhupada DID hear. Again note carefully Srila
Prabhupada is NOT going to PROTEST at this ghastly systematic execution but
still as DUTY of an ACHARYA dictates he IS REVEALING it as: "they all "
"friends". Perfection of Simultaneous oneness and difference role.
Exchange 1 - Mixture of English, Hindi and Bengali (9/11/77)
Srila Prabhupada: Keu bole je keu poison kore diyeche. Hoy to tai.
Translation: Someone says that I've been poisoned. It's possible.
Balaram Mishra (?): Hmm?
Kaviraja: Kya farma rahe hain?
Translation: What is he saying?
Srila Prabhupada: Koi bolta hai je koi mujhko poison kiya gaya hai.
Translation: Someone says that someone has given poison.
Kaviraja: Kisko?
Translation: To whom?
Srila Prabhupada: Mujhko.
Translation: To me.
Kaviraja: Kaun bolta hai?
Translation: Who said?
Srila Prabhupada: Ye sab friends.
Translation: These all friends.
Bhakticharu: Ke boleche, Srila Prabhupada?
Translation: Who said, Srila Prabhupada?
Srila Prabhupada: Ke boleche.
Translation: They all say.
Tamal Krishna: Krishna das?
Kaviraja: Ao ko kaun poison dega? Kis liye dega?
Translation: Who would give you poison? Why would anyone do that?
Tamal Krishna: Who said that, Srila Prabhupada?
Srila Prabhupada: I do not know, but it is said.
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Note: NOW Srila Prabhupada is disclosing the SYMPTOMS of POISONING. What happens when one is given poison. Again he is NOT protesting but still DISCLOSING the FACTS when a person is ACTUALLY given poison what happens. ALSO he CONFIRMS the ACCEPTED SYMPTOMS to be verified in a book.
Exchange 2 - Hindi Only (9/11/77)
Kaviraja: Yah, maharaj ji, kotha ap kaise bola aj ki apko koi bola hai ki apko poison diya hai. Ap ko kuch abhas hua hai, kya?
Translation: Maharaj, how did you say this, that someone has said that
someone has poisoned you? Have you felt something?
Srila Prabhupada: Nahin, aise koi bola je. debe-sa hi ja hota hai. Shayad koi kitab men likha hai.
Translation: No, not said, but when one is given poison, it happens like this. It's written in a book.
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Note: Once again NO PROTEST. Srila Prabhupada IS giving strong hints on the
symptoms in the book.
Exchange 3 - English Only (9/11/77)
Tamal Krishna: Srila Prabhupada? You said before that you... that it is said that you were poisoned?
Srila Prabhupada: No. These kinds of symptoms are seen when a man is poisoned. He said like that, not that I am poisoned.
Tamal Krishna: Did anyone tell you that, or you just know it from before?
Srila Prabhupada: I read something.

Conclusion
Science of Self Realisation 7

Krishna, God, is never tolerant of offenses committed at the lotus feet of a
Vaishnava. Kripambudhi: a Vaishnava is an ocean of mercy. VANCHA-KALPA-TARU: EVERYONE HAS DESIRES, BUT A VAISHNAVA CAN FULFILL ALL DESIRES. KALPA-TARU MEANS "DESIRE TREE."
We believe Srila Prabhupada was POSSIBLY poisoned. Srila Prabhupada KNEW it but did NOT protest on the contrary he FULFILLED their desires. Simultaneously Srila Prabhupada himself disclosed: Hoy to tai. He was POSSIBLY poisoned. The motive: discarding July 9th 1977 instruction (to implement the ritvik system) and usurp Srila Prabhupada's disciples and properties. Money, power, fame, self-aggrandizement of self made gurus (voted-in cheaters).
Srila Prabhupada is ACTUALLY SPEAKING THE WORDS:
Srila Prabhupada: Keu bole je keu poison kore diyeche. Hoy to tai.
Translation: Someone says that I've been poisoned. IT'S POSSIBLE
Yes ---we agree HOY TO TAI.
Note: Vahi bat NOT ONLY means "That same discussion" but can ALSO mean: the
SAME words or the SAME talk.
Srila Prabhupada: Vahi bat... je koi hamko poison kiya.
Translation: That same discussion, that someone has poisoned me.
So instead of the above translation we have:
Translation: That SAME words... THAT: "SOMEONE HAS POISONED ME".

Saturday, 26 November 2011

Someone has poisoned me

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